The Glade 4.0

Riding a ruby drake to kill the boss of the Occulus is the very last achievement I need to finish off my Glory of the Hero. :p Just waiting for it to roll around as the daily again...

For the voids, we did one time with all bronze drakes. It's extremely complicated as far as WoW things go, but once you understand exactly how it works it's actually pretty easy to do. The trick is dpsing him down til he goes immune before another wave of whelps spawn. It helps a ton to have one person orchestrating it, especially if on vent or with a /rw macro.

At that point you're free to mix ruby and emerald in whatever ratios you want. Not too bad. 2 red 3 green probably best (read as: safest) for the boss, but greens do terrible damage so for most of the instance you might want to just pick a different comp and then get new drakes before you engage the boss.

I find this extremely hard to believe, unless there's some extra special way of doing it. And by that I mean exploit.

I know it can be solo'd with a green drake, or at least pre 3.2 with the way he paths, it was possible to circle strafe at max range and continually stack poison on him.

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I don't think that is possible anymore. I think they did something with the whelps who now have a longer range to stop the green drakes from being able to kite the encounter.

Onyxia last night was so full of win! I think mostly because our guild has only been a guild for just a little over a week.

Our third attempt was so awesome, except for being somewhat bored during our last attempt. lol I used maybe 1/3 of my entire mana during the entire fight.

Onyxia no longer scares me!!

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Yeah this used to be possible, it's not anymore.

5 people that know how to play ambers can have the boss dead in a couple of minutes. If they use the rift / shock lance at the correct times for max dps, you can force Eregos into a planar shift before he even has an opportunity to spawn whelps.

That said, the safest way to kill him would probably be 2 red, 2 green, 1 bronze.

So I'm 61 now. Can I and should I get a flying mount? I got a letter in the mail saying something about getting a flying mount for 500 gold. I'm wondering what the benefits are other than looking cool. Do they speed up the regular flight path griffons any? Those things can take forever sometimes.

Any general advice for Outlands? I'm basically doing the quests and getting the crazy green upgrades from them.

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They don't speed up the flight path griffons, last I checked, but they do let you set your own path, especially if you can get your purple flier.

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Stay in Outlands until 68 and get outta there. While the loot is great, it's the most boring part of the content, IMO.

Hellfire, Terrokar, Zangarmarsh should take care of it.

Flying cost just got reduced down to 225g and is lowered by up to 25g by your Stormwind/Orgrimmar faction. Definitely get it! At 150% speed they're faster than 100% speed ground mounts, provided they're in the air. Speeds things up quite a bit for not very much gold at all.

Ah ok 225 gold sounds more reasonable. 500 is all I have right now so didnt want to blow it all if I didnt have to.

Thanks Lenas that sounds good, I'm looking forward to seeing Northrend. Levels are still moving along nicely even now. I'm not really bothering seeking out any big upgrades that are out of the way since I out level them so quickly and I'm still killing fast with the new Outland greens.

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So I've been out of town since Sunday, I'm wondering if the best way to do Brewfest achievements is still save up 350 tokens, buy the clothes and get the Dalaran achievement, and then sell em back for the membership? I've got about 225 tokens saved up as my friend was nice enough to do a couple days worth of dailies for me in exchange for using my guy as a free summon for the mount.

Yes, that's the best way. 350 tokens will get you the clothes, the brew of the month and a pink elephant pet.

With all due respect, I think you are missing out on some neat, albeit generic quests and storylines (especially the Hate Forge camp chain) and probably the most epic looking zone in TBC by skipping Nagrand. Blade's Edge is also quite a fun zone.

I think Hellfire -> Zangarmarsh -> Nagrand -> Blade's Edge would be worth it. Granted, you'll well on your way to 70 when you get to Northrend.

When you get to Northrend, make sure to hit Borean, Howling Fjord, Dragonblight and Sholozar (it's like STV 3.0). Icecrown and Storm Peaks are both equally important for lore in the end game. Zul'Drak was less than memorable for me, except for the very last chain and the Ebon Blade quests. I don't remember much from Grizzly Heals or the lore surrounding DTK.

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The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

You can go 70-80 in Northrend without touching either Storm Peaks or Icecrown, and I think that's a shame. I would much prefer to go at 68 to see more of the content. It is MUCH better than Outlands, and the zones (especially Storm Peaks) look better than any Outlands zone. Dragonblight (wrath gate), Storm Peaks (hodir chain) and Icecrown (arthas line) have some of the best quests in the game and should be experienced.

Certainly. I did all of Hellfire, most of Zangarmarsh, some of Terrorkar and then all of Nagrand and was sitting @ about 71 and a half before I went to HF. I did all of HF, BT and then DB. I did most of Zul'Drak some of GH and some of Sholozar and was 80. I did all of Storm Peaks and Icecrown at 80. I don't think there's any need to stagger it so you hit 80 as you are finish SP/Icecrown.

I really think you are missing out on some cool stuff in BC, particularly Nagrand and if you have a flying mount.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

Northrend leveling is kinda weird like that. They give you too many options! You'll hit 80 long before you even get into all of the zones. On paper the Zul'Drak quests/lore aren't bad but I can kind of echo that it didn't impress me all that much. I feel similarly about Grizzly Hills (outside from the last quest in the Ursoc line!), and to make matters even worse you don't really get useful rep from the quests there, making you hit 80 with lower reps than you would if you chose other places to exp in.

The quests themselves, in all of Northrend, are pretty great though. You'll probably want to do them all at some point. :p Grizzly is probably the only place I can really see skipping without missing out on all that much, though even skipping out here will leave you with some holes.

edit: You people post really fast! That or I shouldn't get distracted by other stuff in the middle of typing posts...

I love that about NR leveling- it makes the second character not nearly as boring to level through the same quests!

If you want to stay in OL til 70, I'd make sure you hit SMV- I found the quests there fun and unique- if you can find a group and do the netherwing quests, they are quite worth it!

Don't skip Nagrand, it is honestly one of my favorite zones- NR included.

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Woot! Downed Ony, Trial of Champions, and got Yogg to phase 3 tonight. Pretty good raid.

Also, I ran through Northrend the same way, zone by zone, even after hitting 80. Blizz has really refined their quest design, and it shows, the lines in WotLK are better than any previous. Should do them all at least once.

Question for you power levelers out there.

What's the best way to go about this? I refer-a-friended my brother, who played way back in classic but hasn't since. We got him up to 8 quickly so we can start doing rfc till 10. Took him in there with my rogue and he's getting something like 14 xp per kill. That's pretty crappy.

Tried it with my 20 druid, and found part of the reason. Mobs that were gray to my druid gave significantly less xp than ones that were green. The level difference between my 80 and him at 8 also had a lot to do with it.

So how do you do this well? I was thinking about trying the drop group and let him tag mobs, but I'm doubtful he could even hit them when he's barely half their level. We decided to turn in for the night as it's getting late, but I want to get this figured out for the next leveling session.

I'd say just get him up to 20 w/ your druid using another character then run them together (them being your brother's character and your druid).

I know people who bought a second account (referred themselves basically) and leveled their other toon just by using /follow and questing like normal. They ripped from 1-50 in a few days, probably 20 hours play time.

I think if both characters were being played you could do this very easily. Just make sure when one person can't play, you log the account anyway and put it on /follow so you can keep questing together. I think this is the fastest way. And you get an easy lvl 80 druid out of it.

Also, the following are a must have for power-questing: Quest Helper (or Carbonite), Tom Tom and LightHeaded.

Quest Helper, means you can optimize your movement in the zone to quest as effeciently as possible, Light Headed is good because you can download comments about quests from Wowhead in game (they appear next to your quest log) without having to alt-tab. TomTom allows you to take any coord's people post in Wowhead comment sections and click them (they appear like a blue hyperlink in the Light Headed quest comments) to set a waypoint very quickly.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

62 and bought my Griffon for 200 gold. Nice. Is there someplace I can see how fast it is in game? I thought I had seen some speed % for my horse in game but now I cant seem to find it.

Questing in Outlands started off pretty cool and now it's back to kill quests basically but it's still early. I liked the bombing run quests, pretty cool and well done.

I'm still surprised by the big leap in equipment, almost double the armor and 50% more DPS on the weapons.

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Remember that with RaF you only get the triple exp if you're grouped and both characters are within like 4 levels of each other- so you don't get the bonuses for running them through instances.

You CAN, however, group with them on a similar level character, and then get both run through instances.

I leveled to 25 or 30 via quests with my warrior/priest duo, then got a bunch of SM runs (close to 2 levels a run) up to 40ish, then did more quests/a few ZF runs to 45, and then Strat until 55. At that point, I did a bunch of the Light's Hope quests (something like 75k exp each with triple bonus) to ding up to 58 and OL.

Dash:

Outlands is such a huge jump over the last 15 or so levels in Vanilla it's amazing. The exp required to level is a lot more, but it feels so much easier.

The leap to NR armor and weapons at 68 is about as impressive.

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WTF ?

RaF
SM
ZF
Strat
OL
NR
Vanilla(?)

Acronym Charts plz?