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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:41 am 
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Just saw this yesterday... This is all opinion as a NoES series fanboy.

I grew up on these movies; The first horror movie I ever watched was Nightmare on Elm Street 2, and I just went crazy from there. I own every movie with Freddy in it (Jason too for that matter) and I am trying to get my hands on the Nightmare on Elm Street The TV series Boxed Set. (list qualifications)

I thought the original was the best of the old series. Not having the corny humor Freddy became infamous for, and staying dark and sinister.(establish credibility)

(losing all credibility)
I was surprised. Jackie Earle Haley really did a good job as Freddy. I thought the makeup was decent... a bit of a different take, but more realistic. Freddy's origin is a bit more up to date and still gives him the creepy sonofabitch aspect.

The death toll was higher than the original, the story kept a lot of the same aspects, but changed it enough to still bring some surprises. Some aspects were left out, new ones brought in.

It IS the same story.. but is a good re-envisioning of the story also. They left it very open for sequels; and based on my enjoyment of this flick... I look forward to them.

There is one Caveat to looking forward to sequels... tangenting into another recently revived series.... I sincerely hope that they do not pull a Halloween 2, no making massive changes to what the character is.. like making Michael Myers grunt and make noise.

But I suppose for Freddy.. the only real thing they could do for that is making him repent for his actions. Kind of like how it would be laughable for Pinhead to say Amen.. oh crap they did that too...

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I've been curious about this film, but the Platinum Dunes remakes have always struck me as overly-violent, mindless pretenders to the thrones of the real films that they've been remaking. I saw the Texas Chainsaw and Amityville remakes, and was less than impressed with either. I'm not sure I'll get past that bias in time to see it in theaters, but I might catch it on Netflix or something.

I have to say, though, that this is one of the most wholly depressing quotes I've ever read as a lover of film. It came on Monday, after Nightmare won the box office battle over the weekend:

Warner distribution president Dan Fellman wrote:
We don't have a story yet, but this is the largest horror opening in the April-May corridor, and it just proves there's a lot left in the franchise


Everyone knows, in their heart of hearts, that franchises are dictated not by artistry but by profit margins, but it's still rare to have such a blatant statement of such, directly confusing "more stories to be told" with "it made money so we figure another will too."

The original Nightmare was my favorite of the triumvirate of iconic '80s horror films (John Carpenter's electrifying Halloween is probably technically the better film, but ANoES just had a surfeit of imagination that gives it an edge, and I never, ever liked Friday the 13th; Clive Barker's original Hellraiser tops them all, in my opinion, but it's not got the cache of the others). While I think the casting of Jackie Earl Haley was an inspired move, I've rather lost any taste I once had for Dead Teenager movies. Horror films can still be sublime, but I'm looking for much more out of them now than I once was. In particular, the advent of Spanish horror films (the films of Guillermo del Toro, The Orphanage, [REC], etc.) are really the place to go for imaginative, masterful horror films. I've pretty much given up on American horror for now, until there's a significant resurgence that moves past the overly-violent, derivative copycats of things like Saw and Hostel, and J-horror has always left me cold.

Sorry for the odd sidetrack...horror films were something about which I was passionate in my youth, and my fascination with them remains. I've been consistently disappointed with them in the past...I dunno, decade or so, but it's because I recognize their unique ability to hit emotions and themes that other films can't touch, and seeing them used for nothing but facile shocks just makes me sad. Horror's always been filled with cheap knockoffs and titillating entries, but the diamonds in the rough did used to come with a bit more frequency. I think I can name on one hand what I consider to be good American horror films of the past ten or fifteen years. I definitely wouldn't need more than ten entries.


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I haven't liked the genre in a long time. I can't even really point out a single film that turned me off to the genre, I just stopped liking them. I can't even go back and watch ones that I did like. They just aren't entertaining movies to me anymore.

I will say that of the countless number of people they could have chosen to play Freddy, I think they made a good choice if they want to keep the feel of Freddy from the first two films. If they want to take him into the comedic side that he evolved into, they probably could have chosen better.

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FarSky,

I do not think you will be disappointed with this remake. I agree that Platinum Dunes has a habit of overdoing things... but I really think they stayed true to this one.

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I was really scared this one was going to suck, but your review has set my mind at ease darksiege. Will go to the theater with much less worry. :)


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FarSky wrote:
J-horror has always left me cold.


What's J-horror?


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Jap-horror.

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Japanese (well, really all Asian) horror.


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Ah, thanks. So FarSky, you didn't like The Ring (the American remake, that is)?


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J-horror has the atmosphere to bully the remakes into crying for their mommy, it would then take the lunch money and proceed to bash it to a bloody pulp.

I've recently gotten into korean horrors, and they aren't too far behind jap, although they tend to be more warm and fuzzy with their story line when compared with j-horror.

I'm looking forward to this remake though, I'm just hoping against hope that they don't stuff it up.


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Well American Horror is an outgrowth of morality plays while J-Horror is much more random in its targets making it easier to identify with the "hero/heroine".

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FarSky - give some French horror a try, see what you think.
Haute Tension
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Shelgeyr wrote:
FarSky - give some French horror a try, see what you think.
Haute Tension
Le Pacte des Loups


I love both of those. Great stuff.


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Shelgeyr wrote:


Mani = Indian Batman /nod. He was a bad mother ****.

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Shelgeyr wrote:
French horror
Le Pacte des Loups


I love this movie... but I did not realize this was supposed to be horror...

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I didn't either, but I found it on a list of 50 Must-See French Horror Movies and it was one that I'd seen and liked, so I mentioned it in addition to the other, which was the only movie I had originally intended to post.

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