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Tase him, bro.

Alternatively, several options present themself martially.

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I'd go with peper spray or tasers... a girl needs to look after herself. In fact, get a couple and hide it around the house, never leave home with out it, and have friends sleep over at random times, so he doesnt know when you'll be alone.

Alternatively, I heard Las Vegas is nice this time of the year, and you could go for a nice looonnngggg vacation. The pool at wynn is to die for ^-^ oh and if you go.. you have to check out tiffanies, so much sparkly stuff in one room (\(^-^)/)

You sound like you have a high upkeep cost Lydiaa.

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Lol I use to, now I have a mortgage and it totally sux >.<

On the up side, I spend what I earn... *que independent woman music clip*

Tasers should never be used for self-defense. They are useful only for making arrests. Pepper spray is better, but there's considerable risk of hitting yourself with it.

For civilians, self-defense is best accomplished with either martial arts or with a gun.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

For my own personal interest, I'm curious why this is so?

They are extremely temporary in disabling an attacker which is useful if you've got the ability and desire to project immedeate local force (such as a big guy or multiple people putting handcuffs on) not so useful if you tase them and watch them get back to their feet in 10 seconds. Also I've seen people take 500k+volts and remove the barbs as they fall down and get back up 3 seconds later, fine. Most have one opportunity to hit, some have two. Thus one shot and you're done - useless against multiple attackers.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

But you have a house.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

thus my spending has been limited since mortagage is part of my spending now >.<

I'm actually bipolar in my personality =P it's kinda weird.

All I heard was

"I'm actually bi =P"

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

Elmo explained it, but I'll lay it out a little more clearly:

1) It only disables as long as the current flows. The effects pass right away when you stop, and the person is not going to be happy. You can hold down the trigger and keep hitting them until help comes but that has a myriad of problems ranging from passersby just seeing you tasing the **** out of this person and getting the wrong idea to running out of power or the probes falling out.

2) The probes can fall out or not stick in the first place, and you only gt one shot, then you have to remove the cartridge, replace it, and shoot again.. and that's just not going to happen in a confrontation. You can hit them with the end of the TASER itself with the little probes on it, but that is far less effective and requires you to get into hand range. Not good for a woman trying to defend against a male attacker. If you're a good enough combatant that getting onto hand range of him is advantageous, you don't need the TASER, which can be taken and used on you.

3) It's totally worthless against multiple attackers

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.38 and going to practice at the range this Friday.

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Nice. Have fun, Kirra!

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What is the magic number police use? 20 feet? I don't think a handgun is worth **** against someone you know unless you're willing to cap them from quite a distance.

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Did you get a Nickel Plated Pimp Killer (Otherwise known as a Smith and Wesson .38 Snub Nose with a chrome finish)?

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21 feet, but that number is subject to quite a few caveats.

As for whether a handgun is worth **** against someone you know, distance isn't really relevant. What makes it worth a **** is the willingness to cap them, period, especially since handguns aren't really designed for use at much of a distance anyhow. That can be harder against someone you know, and it won't necessarily be easy against someone you don't. The bottom line, however, is that you need to make up your mind that you want to survive. You may feel like **** afterwards, but you'll be alive to feel like ****.

The 21 foot rule is the distance at which a person not expecting an attack (as in, not expecting the person to attack them, not completely unaware of the attacker's presence) can reasonably expect to draw and fire before an attacker with a knife can stab them.

If the person with the gun has any sort of advance warning, already has their gun out, or both, the distance decreases. Other factors can increase the distance. That's also the distance for just one shot; to get more shots off requires more distance.

The purpose of the rule is to illustrate to people that just because the other guy has a knife and you have a gun doesn't mean you've gunned down a helpless person if you shoot them 20 feet away, a favorite line of criminal-sympathizing fools and people who can't accept that their family member was a thug or drug dealer or something. A knife is a deadly weapon and should be treated as such.

In any case, the rule is not very applicable to the situation of self-defense against an aggressive ex, since the defender already knows the attacker is hostile when he or she sees them, which is a warning. The attacker may get around this by sneaking up, but it's highly unlikely that the defender will see the attacker standing there and regard them as just another person on the street.

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According to the 21 foot rule an attacker can cover 21 feet in about 1.5 seconds from a dead stand still. So what is the kill-zone for a known threat? 10 foot? When can you shoot this person and get off with self-defense? Also if they are unarmed and you use deadly-force can you still claim self-defense? I've been told by law-enforcement that if someone comes at me with fists I can't escalate to a baseball bat.

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Wow, I'd say the fists vs. baseball bat is pretty silly. So if the guy comes at me with fists (indicating, in my mind, that he feels pretty confident about his efficacy with fists), and you're not trained in unarmed fighting, you have to just get your *** kicked? A baseball bat isn't unreasonable, IMO, unless you're pounding away at his bleeding skull while he's unconscious on the ground. It'd be unfortunate if the law felt differently, I think.

As for Kirra's situation; she's already got a court-mandated restraining order against the guy, which he's broken already in a fashion that resulted in hospitalization for Kirra, and that was when he was unarmed. Any jury that would convict her for shooting the bastard, fatally or not, if she saw him violating it again, needs to die in a fire, regardless of whether he turns out to be armed next time.

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Yes. Like any sport, if you are not trained, you WILL get your *** kicked. If you have a good tennis racquet with 1 week of experience versus someone with a wooden racquet who's been playing for a year, you will lose.

If I had a baseball bat and knew I was facing an unarmed person with any martial arts experience, I would run the hell away if possible.

Depends on what state you're in.

Ok, first of all, you're attributing a degree of precision to this that it doesn't have. The 21-foot rule is a rule of thumb, not a hard and fast principle that always applies. Individual variations from person to person will make it vary somewhat, and in any case it isn't a matter of "if you kill them beyond the distance they could have stabbed you at, it's murder." The idea isn't to make it a fair fight; it's to illustrate the fact that a person with a bladed weapon is dangerous much farther than their reach from a standing position.

For a known threat depends, again, on individual variations in both the situation and the people. How much advance knowledge? A shouted threat? A lengthy argument? Seeing him reach for the knife? Do you have your hand on the gun, the gun out, the gun out and pointed?

If you get into a self defense situation, you need to be able to articulate later what you did, what facts and circumstances made you do it, and why you reasonably felt it was necessary. If the other guy is much bigger than you, say that, and explain that made you afraid. Don't count ont he police or the jusry to just realize it.
As for escalating to a baseball bat from bare hands, that depends. What is your attacker like? Is he a huge guy or someone you know to have major martial arts experience? Is he likely to take the baseball bat regardless and beat you to death with it?

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I only referenced the 21 foot rule to illustrate an attacker can go from dead-still to on you in 1.5 seconds. Arguments with someone you know typically occur within a much closer range than that so from a practical standpoint a gun only does you good if it is drawn and aimed before they reach the 21 foot mark.

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Its a good standard since its been taught to cops for twenty years so its easy to use in SD case and be pretty safe - they are expanding the range for police education though to about 30 feet.

Practice drawing while dropping to a kneeling position (common cover). Practice drawing while moving back two full steps, thats a lot of distance when time slows down.

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Ahh short barrel .38. Hate those things. I'm more a 9mm, .40, or .45ACP fan. O' course, revolvers don't really interest me either.