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I like the typos, really helps demonstrate the quality and acumen of the state's educators.

How many times did you proofread that sentence to make sure you didn't make any typos? hehe

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I like the typos, really helps demonstrate the quality and acumen of the state's educators.

How many times did you proofread that sentence to make sure you didn't make any typos? hehe


None.

Why, did you find one?

I generally don't proofread, but correct in-line with typing.

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http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/13/v ... ntational/

Check out the video of Christie slapping down a reporter calling his "tone" "combative".

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http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/13/video-chris-christie-destroys-reporter-for-calling-him-confrontational/

Check out the video of Christie slapping down a reporter calling his "tone" "combative".


That... was awesome.

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Voucher bill passed the Senate "over the objections of the teacher's unions." That's certainly encouraging, I'm sure.

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Dash wrote:
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/13/video-chris-christie-destroys-reporter-for-calling-him-confrontational/

Check out the video of Christie slapping down a reporter calling his "tone" "combative".


Not sure how I feel about that one. Christie's obviously a charismatic guy, and it's hard not to like him in a clip like that, but I'm generally skeptical of people claiming their own "bluntness" and "honesty" are admirable traits. More often than not, those people are just pushy assholes.


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Have you been to NJ RD?

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That might be the most encouraging things I've ever heard an elected official say....

Maybe we could interest him in the White House?


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Dash wrote:
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/13/video-chris-christie-destroys-reporter-for-calling-him-confrontational/

Check out the video of Christie slapping down a reporter calling his "tone" "combative".


Not sure how I feel about that one. Christie's obviously a charismatic guy, and it's hard not to like him in a clip like that, but I'm generally skeptical of people claiming their own "bluntness" and "honesty" are admirable traits. More often than not, those people are just pushy assholes.



I believe you need those traits though to succeed in business and politics. To a degree at least. You cant be a pushover certainly. Some people say the right things and do whatever they want anyway, others are more blunt. In Christies case, believe me he is going up against very powerful and entrenched forces in NJ. This isnt to say they are evil and he is good, but it is what it is. If he's to change anything of significance, it's going to be a fight to do it.

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Have you been to NJ RD?


Considering he lives in NYC, I would have to guess yes.


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So long as they speak the truth, I don't care how blunt they are. Hopefully he continues to shake things up down there.

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Have you been to NJ RD?


Yeah, lived in Hoboken for a little while, actually. Moving back there in the near future too. NYC is just too expensive.


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Dash wrote:
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/13/video-chris-christie-destroys-reporter-for-calling-him-confrontational/

Check out the video of Christie slapping down a reporter calling his "tone" "combative".


Not sure how I feel about that one. Christie's obviously a charismatic guy, and it's hard not to like him in a clip like that, but I'm generally skeptical of people claiming their own "bluntness" and "honesty" are admirable traits. More often than not, those people are just pushy assholes.


It's interesting. That clip reminds me of Jesse Ventura when he was governor of MN. He was "blunt" and "honest" too. I actually really appreciated that trait in him, because just as Christie says you may not like where he stands on an issue, but you sure as hell know WHERE he stands on it. There was a very famous clip of Ventura telling a single mom student at the U of M that it wasn't the tax payers responsibility to fund her education.

I actually miss him as governor, and like this clip of Christie. But as RD says, often times those claims are just covering up that they are pushy assholes. Ventura certainly could be a pushy *******. However, I'm not sure that having a pushy ******* as a governor is necessarily a bad thing. However, it generally doesn't get them re-elected.


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My brother lives in Hoboken, I'll have to let you buy me a beer sometime =p

As for what I said earlier about being blunt, this guy makes a good point. It really does seem like the people who are willing to lie to the public and say what they want to hear prosper now that I think of it:

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/301543.php

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This flies directly counter to what I was saying earlier about politicians profiting from fudging their positions in order to pander to that segment of the polity who wish to be spared the intellectual and moral burden of making decisions.

Maybe Christie has decided that segment of the population isn't going to rouse itself from its slumber anyway so might as well just speak bluntly.

Will it work? Hey, I've got a some sort of scientific curiosity about stuff. Conventional wisdom says that it's usually the other kind of politician -- slippery, evasive, platitudinous, gray, poll-tested and blow-dried -- that prospers, but who knows. I'm open to contrary evidence.

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Dash wrote:
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Dash wrote:
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/13/video-chris-christie-destroys-reporter-for-calling-him-confrontational/

Check out the video of Christie slapping down a reporter calling his "tone" "combative".


Not sure how I feel about that one. Christie's obviously a charismatic guy, and it's hard not to like him in a clip like that, but I'm generally skeptical of people claiming their own "bluntness" and "honesty" are admirable traits. More often than not, those people are just pushy assholes.



I believe you need those traits though to succeed in business and politics. To a degree at least. You cant be a pushover certainly.


I agree you have to be firm, and straightforwardness is admirable, but you can be respectful and pleasant too. What I'm getting at, I guess, is the difference between these two statements:

"Thanks for putting so much time into this, Bob. It still needs a fair bit of work, though. Get me a rewrite by Friday, ok?"
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"Jesus, Bob, this took you how long? I can't use this. Look, go back and bring me something I can use by Friday."

Both communicate dissatisfaction and establish a deadline for a rewrite, but the first statement is just nicer about it.


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My brother lives in Hoboken, I'll have to let you buy me a beer sometime =p


Hey, absolutely. Drop me a line if you're in town.


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RangerDave wrote:

I agree you have to be firm, and straightforwardness is admirable, but you can be respectful and pleasant too. What I'm getting at, I guess, is the difference between these two statements:

"Thanks for putting so much time into this, Bob. It still needs a fair bit of work, though. Get me a rewrite by Friday, ok?"
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"Jesus, Bob, this took you how long? I can't use this. Look, go back and bring me something I can use by Friday."

Both communicate dissatisfaction and establish a deadline for a rewrite, but the first statement is just nicer about it.


It depends on how useless Bob is overall though. If its the 18th time that Bob has brought you a pile of ****... one can understand a little exasperation on your part ;)

If Bob's a new guy that just needs a little coaching, then the first is more appropriate.

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I agree you have to be firm, and straightforwardness is admirable, but you can be respectful and pleasant too. What I'm getting at, I guess, is the difference between these two statements:

"Thanks for putting so much time into this, Bob. It still needs a fair bit of work, though. Get me a rewrite by Friday, ok?"
vs.
"Jesus, Bob, this took you how long? I can't use this. Look, go back and bring me something I can use by Friday."

Both communicate dissatisfaction and establish a deadline for a rewrite, but the first statement is just nicer about it.


It depends on how useless Bob is overall though. If its the 18th time that Bob has brought you a pile of ****... one can understand a little exasperation on your part ;)

If Bob's a new guy that just needs a little coaching, then the first is more appropriate.


If it's the 18th time that Bob has brought you a pile of ****, the problem is not Bob, the problem is Bob's management.


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I agree you have to be firm, and straightforwardness is admirable, but you can be respectful and pleasant too. What I'm getting at, I guess, is the difference between these two statements:

"Thanks for putting so much time into this, Bob. It still needs a fair bit of work, though. Get me a rewrite by Friday, ok?"
vs.
"Jesus, Bob, this took you how long? I can't use this. Look, go back and bring me something I can use by Friday."

Both communicate dissatisfaction and establish a deadline for a rewrite, but the first statement is just nicer about it.


It depends on how useless Bob is overall though. If its the 18th time that Bob has brought you a pile of ****... one can understand a little exasperation on your part ;)

If Bob's a new guy that just needs a little coaching, then the first is more appropriate.


If it's the 18th time that Bob has brought you a pile of ****, the problem is not Bob, the problem is Bob's management.


Yes, and if Bob's a tenured union employee that can't be fired...

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Yes, and if Bob's a tenured union employee that can't be fired...


First, it's possible to fire union employees, just much harder than usual.

Second, you assume that I meant fire him. While that certainly may be the right answer, not having him work on projects that he either doesn't have the skill for or aptitude for is another. Getting all pissy because the hammer does a shitty job of driving a screw in, is not the hammers fault.


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If Bob can't complete the tasks that he was hired to complete, Bob should be terminated.

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If Bob can't complete the tasks that he was hired to complete, Bob should be terminated.


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If it's the 18th time that Bob has brought you a pile of ****, the problem is not Bob, the problem is Bob's management.
Bob wouldn't get 18 tries in the first place. The only problem with Bob's management is not firing the incompetent tool.

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I'm just going to quote the whole article, but here are the two graphs to take away imo. They note that he has actually cut spending, and not by a trivial amount, and that the unions are not happy at all. I hear at least one commercial a day on the radio on how Christie hates kids and senior citizens and we need to stop him.

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Upon taking office Christie declared a state of emergency, signing an executive order that froze spending, and then, in eight weeks, cutting $13 billion in spending. In March he presented to the Legislature his first budget, which cuts 9 percent of spending, including more than $800 million in education funding; seeks to privatize numerous government functions; projects 1,300 layoffs; and caps tax increases.

Teachers unions are incensed, fighting Christie’s proposal that — in order to avoid cuts to education — teachers accept a one-year wage freeze and contribute 1.5 percent to the generous-by-every-standard healthcare plans they now enjoy for free. New Jersey, which has the highest unemployment in the region and highest taxes in the country, lost 121,000 jobs in the private sector in 2009 while adding 11,300 new education jobs. During the last eight years, K-12 enrollment rose just 3 percent while education jobs increased more than 16 percent. According to the Newark Star-Ledger, during the recession that has cost many residents their homes and jobs and scaled back hours and pay for the employed, teachers’ salaries rose by nearly 5 percent, double the rate of inflation.



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By A.B. Stoddard - 05/12/10 05:45 PM ET

In a movie version of this important story of our time, the bold, undaunted officeholder would look much like the boyish, handsome David Cameron — Great Britain’s new Conservative prime minister — who called on his countrymen Tuesday to embrace an “age of austerity.”

But this is America. So the fearless leader willing to be honest with voters, to part with what cannot be paid for, is actually not dashing, nor is he eloquent. He is an overweight Bruce Springsteen devotee, a former prosecutor with a remaining trace of a Turnpike accent who is intent on rescuing New Jersey. If he succeeds, Gov. Chris Christie (R-N.J.) could become a major political force in the years to come, whether he likes it or not.

As the United States watches a debt crisis in Greece like a fiscal oil spill, waiting to see where it will spread first and when it will make landfall on our shores, Christie is tackling the nation’s worst state deficit — $10.7 billion of a $29.3 billion budget. In doing so, Christie has become the politician so many Americans crave, one willing to lose his job. Indeed, Christie is doing something unheard of: governing as a Republican in a blue state, just as he campaigned, making good on promises, acting like his last election is behind him.

Upon taking office Christie declared a state of emergency, signing an executive order that froze spending, and then, in eight weeks, cutting $13 billion in spending. In March he presented to the Legislature his first budget, which cuts 9 percent of spending, including more than $800 million in education funding; seeks to privatize numerous government functions; projects 1,300 layoffs; and caps tax increases.

Teachers unions are incensed, fighting Christie’s proposal that — in order to avoid cuts to education — teachers accept a one-year wage freeze and contribute 1.5 percent to the generous-by-every-standard healthcare plans they now enjoy for free. New Jersey, which has the highest unemployment in the region and highest taxes in the country, lost 121,000 jobs in the private sector in 2009 while adding 11,300 new education jobs. During the last eight years, K-12 enrollment rose just 3 percent while education jobs increased more than 16 percent. According to the Newark Star-Ledger, during the recession that has cost many residents their homes and jobs and scaled back hours and pay for the employed, teachers’ salaries rose by nearly 5 percent, double the rate of inflation.

Christie is adamant about lowering taxes. After taxes were raised 115 times in the last eight years, he said the wealthy are tapped out. Property taxes rose nearly 70 percent in the last decade, and studies show top earners — the 1 percent of taxpayers paying 40 percent of income tax — are fleeing the Garden State.

The goal is not just to crawl out of crisis but ultimately to lead, said Christie in his budget address. “If we make the tough decisions now, we will be one year ahead of 80 percent of the states in the race to economic growth. If we fail to act, we will fall even further behind ... by going first, we can become first.”

Can Christie succeed? We will find out on June 30, when the Legislature must pass a budget . But no matter the political price, Christie is determined. “You just have to stand and grit your teeth and know your poll numbers are going to go down — and mine have — but you gotta grit through it because the alternative is unacceptable,” he told The Wall Street Journal.

The alternative is unacceptable — words a growing majority of Americans desperately want to hear from their elected officials.

Stoddard is an associate editor of The Hill.

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I can't believe I'm going to say this, but hell yeah Chris Christie. I had no faith in you to do what you actually said you were going to do in the election, thus I voted for an independent. If Christie continues down this road, he has my vote for re-election next time out.

I love the fact that teachers could give up one measly raise and pay 1.5% of their healthcare insurance and none of them would need to be let go. In a town I used to live in, Rochelle Park, police officers gave up a pay raise just so no officers had to be fired. That takes guts, especially because it would have been determined by seniority. Why the hell can't the teachers do the exact same thing? I pay way more than 1.5% of my healthcare insurance and I got less of a raise than the teachers (and we were lucky to get one at all) in my private company. And I make similar wages. So what incentive is there to work in the private sector when the public sector was safer and similar in wages/benefits? Fortunately, risk/reward is finally being shifted back to the way it should be again. I hope state employees, police officers, and fireman are all next. All these groups have abused the system for far too long.


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