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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:08 pm 
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http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/ind ... t_eac.html

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Seniors are being asked to provide their birthdates, Social Security numbers and citizen status to the Secret Service...

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Each one should demand the same from him.

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Lol! Nice one, Elm. :D


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I would boycott the ceremony, and try to draw media attention to what is beyond hypocrisy.

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My understanding is that this is standard practice for anyone who gets to meet the president.


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Aizle wrote:
My understanding is that this is standard practice for anyone who gets to meet the president.



And that's fine...but when you hold it up side by side to his issue with showing his birth certificate and the left's whining about Arizona and "show your papers!"...

I mean come on...

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Aizle wrote:
My understanding is that this is standard practice for anyone who gets to meet the president.


But not to be the President?

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I find it incredibly sad that we live in a world where children are required to have a background check in order to shake a man's hand.
I don't fault the administration for doing so, they have good reason, I just find it sad that its necessary.

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Nitefox wrote:
Aizle wrote:
My understanding is that this is standard practice for anyone who gets to meet the president.



And that's fine...but when you hold it up side by side to his issue with showing his birth certificate and the left's whining about Arizona and "show your papers!"...

I mean come on...


You'll note that the article states they have to provide their citizen status, not their birth certificate. I'm certain that the President provided exactly the same information when he was elected.

And there is also a big difference between the possible racial targeting abuses possible with the AZ law and a security check to meet the president.


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LadyKate wrote:
I find it incredibly sad that we live in a world where children are required to have a background check in order to shake a man's hand.
I don't fault the administration for doing so, they have good reason, I just find it sad that its necessary.


I could not agree more.


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And there is also a big difference between the possible racial targeting abuses possible with the AZ law and a security check to meet the president.


There's a huge difference, since racial targeting abuses are almost impossible unless the police start ignoring basic procedure when making contact with people - which would risk their physical safety and make any abuses so obvious as to be unconcealable.

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Obama already showed his birth certificate.


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Amanar wrote:
Obama already showed his birth certificate.
Obama showed a Certification of a Live Birth. This is not the document people are requesting.

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Khross wrote:
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Obama already showed his birth certificate.
Obama showed a Certification of a Live Birth. This is not the document people are requesting.


I was adopted. I don't have any more of a record of my birth than he does. Yet, I'm pretty sure I was born here. Can't prove it though.

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LadyKate:

You're also not president of the United States.

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You're also not president of the United States.


However, she very much should have the right to become so.


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I'd vote for her.

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Aizle wrote:
Khross wrote:
LadyKate:

You're also not president of the United States.


However, she very much should have the right to become so.


She can't be president.

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Yeah. She's a woman. :)

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Not old enough either.

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Aizle wrote:
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You're also not president of the United States.
However, she very much should have the right to become so.
At which point there would be court orders filed to obtain the documents verifying her legitimacy to serve as such. Like I told Telumehtar last time this came up ...

1. Why was the Hawaii Short Form found unacceptable by my brother's Graduate School program?

2. Why did the State Department deny same said brother a passport for supplying short form from Hawaii?

3. How on earth did my brother obtain a long form when the guy in charge of that office for Hawaii says they don't exist?

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Actually Khross, I believe the official statement was that the long form documents from 1961 were destroyed when the files were migrated to digital form.

Its not that long forms for Hawaii don't exist, its that those particular years no longer exist.

That said, it would still be interesting, assuming your ancedotal is accurate, why your brother's short form was unacceptable for a passport, but obviously it had to fine for Obama.


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