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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:20 am 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5_rXBuE ... r_embedded


Where's Clint Eastwood when you need him!

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:34 am 
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I love how it's linked as Obama sends them.

I hope they all got arrested for tresspassing.


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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:51 am 
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Are these the types of debates they have on the news these days? That was retarded.


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It's Fox, what do you expect?


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Aizle wrote:
It's Fox, what do you expect?
As if CNN or MSNBC or ABC or NBC or CBS or whoever is any better?

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I mean at least FOX had even numbers. You get on MSNBC, CBS, ABC, CNN and it's 3 lefties vs one somewhat conservative opinion.

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Khross wrote:
Aizle wrote:
It's Fox, what do you expect?
As if CNN or MSNBC or ABC or NBC or CBS or whoever is any better?


None of those you list are much better. They are all basically sensationalized crap. NPR/MPR is about the only news source that isn't sensationalized crap anymore.


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Aizle wrote:
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Aizle wrote:
It's Fox, what do you expect?
As if CNN or MSNBC or ABC or NBC or CBS or whoever is any better?
None of those you list are much better. They are all basically sensationalized crap. NPR/MPR is about the only news source that isn't sensationalized crap anymore.
I disagree. NPR has succumbed to the Human Interest trap. Consequently, Market Place emerges as the last and only true news radio left in their broadcast. There is also the problem of Robert Siegel's increasingly anti-Conservative commentary during Morning Edition.

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Aizle wrote:
Khross wrote:
Aizle wrote:
It's Fox, what do you expect?
As if CNN or MSNBC or ABC or NBC or CBS or whoever is any better?


None of those you list are much better. They are all basically sensationalized crap. NPR/MPR is about the only news source that isn't sensationalized crap anymore.


Which is why you need to listen to several of them, and pick the facts out of the editorializing.

As for NPR/MPR, that's just one big whine fest that hides it's sensationalism behind the half-asleep tone of voice of the announcer and the human-interest nonsense Khross mentioned.

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That's why I just read Cat Fancy nowadays.

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Khross wrote:
I disagree. NPR has succumbed to the Human Interest trap. Consequently, Market Place emerges as the last and only true news radio left in their broadcast. There is also the problem of Robert Siegel's increasingly anti-Conservative commentary during Morning Edition.


Car-talk is awesome.

Anyway, I get a lot of "news" from NPR. Take it for what it is. Obviously, you listen to it also. As long as you get your news from more than one source, and realize that everything you read or hear is biased in some way or another, you'll probably be fine.


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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 9:21 am 
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Aizle wrote:
I hope they all got arrested for tresspassing.


They got a police escort:

http://bigjournalism.com/acary/2010/05/ ... aers-home/


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The family of Greg Baer, Bank of America executive, is located in a jurisdiction protected by the Montgomery County Police Department (MCPD), which responded promptly to a disturbance call from his neighborhood last weekend.

According to Corporal Dan Friz, an MCPD spokesperson in Rockville, Maryland, the department received a disturbance call from one of Baer’s neighbors at 4:10 pm last Sunday. Four MCPD units arrived at Baer’s Greenville Rd. address at 4:15 pm. At least two Metropolitan Police Department units from the nearby District of Columbia were already at the scene when they arrived.

Why? Because police cars attached to the Washington MPD’s Civil Disturbance Unit had escorted the SEIU protesters’ buses to Baer’s home. Such cross-jurisdictional escort activity is not uncommon for both departments according to Friz and Metro Police Department spokesperson Officer Eric Frost. Still, the District police did not inform their colleagues of what was about to happen in one of their Maryland neighborhoods.

The Maryland officers reported there were approximately 500 protesters on and near the front lawn of Baer’s house. Montgomery County was not given a “heads-up” concerning the planned protest. Although a protest permit is technically required in Montgomery County, in practice no citation is issued if the protestors disperse when requested to do so by the owner of the private property they occupy.

The primary role of the Washington cops in this event was to protect the protesters. The D.C. officers had no authority to act to disperse the protesters even had the homeowner been present and asked them to vacate the private property. The event ended as a “dash one”– no arrests, no citations – according to Friz. The Montgomery County units left the scene at 5:29 pm.

According to Friz, “members of protest groups know how far to push the envelope” and wait for “the key words” – for example, the property owner’s request that they leave – in order to avoid arrests or citations. For example, protesters are required to keep on the move, since a standing protest violates a Montgomery County code. And, while photographs clearly suggest that many of the SEIU protesters were stationary, the District police don’t have any authority to enforce Montgomery County laws.

So, let’s sum this up: A caravan of SEIU buses receive a Metropolitan (D.C.) Police Department escort to a private home in Maryland where the protesters, from all appearances, violate Montgomery County law by engaging in a stationary protest. The Montgomery County police were not informed by their cross-jurisdictional colleagues of the impending, unusually large protest pending in their jurisdiction.

What’s up with that? Had the mob decided to torch the house, the D.C. police would not have been authorized to intervene. Not their jurisdiction. They’re just escorts. Meanwhile, a teenage boy is home alone, frightened by what’s happening outside his front door.

There’s something very wrong with this picture.

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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 12:44 pm 
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Part of what's wrong with that picture is that, assuming that cross-jurisdictional happenings are as frequent as the author implies, Maryland recognizes the police authority of DC cops. In that case, had the protestors set the house on fire, they certainly could have intervened to stop a felony being committed before their eyes. Depending on Maryland law, they possibly could have intervened regardless of their police status.

Other than that misunderstanding, however, the article is a bit disturbing in what it describes.

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