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http://www.fdlreporter.com/article/2009 ... 17094/1985

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House approves student loan legislation
For The Reporter • September 17, 2009


Rep. Tom Petri (R-WI) hailed the passage of legislation today as a major advance for student loan reforms he has advocated for 26 years.


By a vote of 253 to 171, the House of Representatives approved H.R. 3221, the Student Aid and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2009.


Among other initiatives, this bill would eliminate the wasteful Federal Family Education Loan (FFEL) program (aka "guaranteed loans") in favor of the more cost-effective alternative Direct Loan program.


"We have two federal student loan programs," Petri said. "Under FFEL the government provides subsidies to private lenders to make student loans and pays them back if a borrower defaults. The Direct Loan program provides loans on the same or better terms by eliminating the middleman and issuing the loans directly from the government, with all servicing and bill collection being handled by private companies operating through performance-based contracts. Doing away with the unnecessary level of profit-making bureaucracy will save the taxpayers up to $87 billion over the next 10 years - money which will be used to improve student aid and lower the deficit."


"Today is a victory for students and taxpayers," he said.


The Senate has yet to consider the legislation, but is considered likely to approve it.


Labeled "the originator of the Direct Loan program" by Education and Labor Committee Chairman George Miller (D-Calif.), Petri has championed the direct loan concept since 1983, assisted the Clinton Administration in creating the Direct Loan program in 1993, and has defended it against persistent attacks by the institutions which profit from guaranteed loans.



Let's see, this bill will:
Create a government monopoly
Cost private-sector jobs
Create government jobs



Where's the positive in this again?

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The positive is now the government will have more money they can budget for and put tax-payers on the hook for the misappropriated money that was squandered on pet-projects. The positive is greedy corporate exec's don't get to take baths in 100 dollar bills anymore.

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Screeling wrote:
The positive is now the government will have more money they can budget for and put tax-payers on the hook for the misappropriated money that was squandered on pet-projects. The positive is greedy corporate exec's don't get to take baths in 100 dollar bills anymore.



How in the blue balls did I not see that!?

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DFK! wrote:
Let's see, this bill will:
Create a government monopoly

Will not. Where does it take away the ability for private companies to make loans?
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Cost private-sector jobs

Only those propped up by wasted federal dollars.
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Create government jobs

I'm not so sure about this. It will increase the size of an existing program, but do away with another program all together. Net gain/loss of jobs? Beats me.


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
DFK! wrote:
Let's see, this bill will:
Create a government monopoly

Will not. Where does it take away the ability for private companies to make loans?


Not from the bill, but from the OP:

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The Direct Loan program provides loans on the same or better terms by eliminating the middleman and issuing the loans directly from the government...


Loans directly from the government and "eliminating the middleman" indicates that student loans of this type will only be available from the government itself.

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Cost private-sector jobs

Only those propped up by wasted federal dollars.


They aren't propped up at all. The loans are currently made and interest/defaults subsidized by the government. The loan itself is still paid for by the individual, typically in conjunction with unsubsidized loans.

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Create government jobs

I'm not so sure about this. It will increase the size of an existing program, but do away with another program all together. Net gain/loss of jobs? Beats me.


Not sure of the net gain/loss of jobs. My point is the shift to government employment from private sector is a net loss for the taxpayers, as a whole.

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It isn't that a private bank can't make student loans, its just that without federal backing such loans would be at 15-16% interest, rather than 8ish% that the direct loans would be going for. It would essentially force everyone except the government out of the student loan business.


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Aegnor wrote:
It isn't that a private bank can't make student loans, its just that without federal backing such loans would be at 15-16% interest, rather than 8ish% that the direct loans would be going for. It would essentially force everyone except the government out of the student loan business.



Government doesn't do that to businesses, so that obviously can't be correct.

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