The Glade 4.0

Almost all the Jews in Israel have not been there for thousands of years.



source: http://www.mideastweb.org/palpop.htm

I doubt there are many that have been there for even 100 years.

I don't know what difference that makes though.

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I was going to say dont misunderstand me, I'm not claiming there are millions of two thousand year old jews in Israel.

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My point is that the Jewish population was very low for thousands of years, so it's silly to use that as a reason.

You mean 230 years... going back thousands of years, two of those religions didn't exist, leaving one of them the easy majority. The temples and relgious sites that make those areas key to that culture/religion date considerably longer than your "survey" of population, much less the creation of either Christianity or Islam.

So, the number of folks living on a piece of property gives weight to the ownership of the property? I'm thinking you'll have problems defending that assertion.

The Palestine Mandate pretty much scotches your argument, in my opinion.

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Hmm, why don't we just give them the Panama Canal Zone and let them run it.

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Ummm, because Panama would object if "we" gave away their territory; unlike the land that was used to create Israel, it's owners don't want to do it, and "we" should have no say in how another country divides up their territory.

Since Israel is about 15x bigger than what used to comprise the Canal Zone, I'd imagine it would be a tight fit.

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Ok, put the Panamanians in the Canal Zone and let the Israelis have Panama. Panama is big enough for both populations to co-exist.

Most of the Palestinians did not believe Britain had the right to rule them, and resented Britain's restructuring their country. Because it worked out well for the Jewish citizens, they didn't grouse about it very much, but the non-Jewish citizens did.

We don't have the right or moral ground to move an entire country full of people, my suggestion was argumentative.

No way on earth to make everyone happy. The hate is cultural and visceral. This will continue to be a major argument until one side wipes out the other.

I don't have a real solution.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

So what if the neighbors objected?

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I'd vote to give them California, but I'm thinking that wouldn't go over too well, either.

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How about New York?

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Holy shitsnacks!

No, I haven't been to New York yet.

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The Canal Zone doesn't exist anymore.


I'd bet they haven't been happy that they've not had any sort of "Palestinian" sovereignty for over 2500 years, but I wouldn't say that with any certainty, as I can't prove it.

Maybe, maybe not. Again, not something I can prove conclusively, but I am positive that the one's who left in 1948, anticipating a triumphant return after the defeat of the Israeli's would be much happier now if they had stayed.


Some of the "non-Jewish" residents were happy, some weren't.



If we own the land, and the emigrating population wants to move, we sure do.





Unless you're talking about globally, even that wouldn't work.


Unless people choose to look out for the best interest of themselves and their loved ones, in my opinion, there is no solution.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

Holy Homeowner's Association on crack batman!

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

How about this.... The Federal Government uses Eminent Domain and relocates all legal US Citizens out of Texas. Once Texas is empty We use that space to Create a New Israel.

We move all of the Jews there; and we then further use Eminent Domain to clear a 50 mile border between the US border to Mexico and make that part of the new Israel.

Then we clear the problem Palestine has with Israel AND let Israel **** with Border security for a few decades...

Two problems solved with only an abuse of Eminent Domain laws. No need to worry about nukes, no need to worry about the Palestinians, etc. Then Britain can **** with the Palestinians again over the border in that area.

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

Or we could stop trying to come up with ways to relocate Israel to make the Palestinians and Arab countries around it happy again. The issue is dead regardless of what "should have" been done post-WWII.

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Too late!

/rimshot

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