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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:47 am 
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If they would have put this guy behind bars the first time, this 21 year old girl wouldn't have been murdered. I mean, they had even gotten a confession out of the guy and they still didn't put him away!!!

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Police in neighboring Chile are checking hotels for a young Dutchman long suspected in the 2005 disappearance of U.S. teen Natalee Holloway who is now being sought in the killing of a woman in Peru.
After Peruvian officials announced Wednesday that Joran van der Sloot is the prime suspect in the death of 21-year-old Stephany Flores in a Lima hotel, Chilean police confirmed he had entered their country two days earlier.
Chilean Police Inspector Douglas Rodriguez in Arica told The Associated Press there was no record of van der Sloot leaving Chile and authorities were searching the country's dry, sparsely populated northern provinces for him.
In Lima, police Gen. Cesar Guardia said at a news conference that the slain woman was found Wednesday in a room at a hotel where van der Sloot had been staying and that she had been seen with the suspect early Sunday, when she was killed.
The killing occurred exactly five years after the May 30, 2005, disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway during a high school trip in Aruba, a Dutch Caribbean island where van der Sloot's late father was a prominent judge.
Prosecutors said van der Sloot is still their main suspect in the case even though he was never charged.
The Dutch government said Interpol issued an international arrest warrant for van der Sloot in the Peru killing. But Rodriguez, the Chilean police official, said authorities there had received only a request to locate the suspect, not an arrest warrant.
Guardia, the Peruvian police general, said the 22-year-old Dutchman was in Peru for a poker tournament and appears with the dead woman in a video taken at a Lima casino early Sunday. The two were later seen entering the hotel by one of its employees about 5 a.m. and the Dutchman departed alone about four hours later, he said.
"We have an interview with a worker at the hotel who says she saw this foreigner with the victim enter his room," said Guardia.
The woman's body was found face down on the hotel room floor Wednesday, abrasions on her face and body, and signs of trauma, Guardia said. He said she was clothed.
Asked if she had been asphyxiated, Guardia said he was waiting for autopsy results on the cause of death.
The victim's father, Ricardo Flores, 48, is a former president of the Peruvian Automobile Club who won the "Caminos del Inca" rally in 1991 and brings circuses and foreign entertainers to Peru. He ran for vice president in 2001 and for president five years later on fringe tickets.
A lawyer for van der Sloot in New York, Joe Tacopina, said he did not know his client's whereabouts and had not been in touch with him since the Peru allegations emerged.
Tacopina cautioned against a rush to judgment.
"Joran van der Sloot has been falsely accused of murder once before. The fact is he wears a bull's-eye on his back now and he is a quote-unquote usual suspect when it comes to allegations of foul play," Tacopina said.
Van der Sloot was twice arrested but later released for lack of evidence in the 2005 disappearance of Holloway in Aruba.
No trace of her has been found and van der Sloot remains the main suspect in the case, Ann Angela, spokeswoman for the Aruba prosecutor's office, said Wednesday.
"What's happening now is incredible," she said. "At this moment we don't have anything to do with it, but we are following the case with great interest and if Peruvian authorities would need us, we are here."
The mystery of Holloway's disappearance garnered wide attention on television and in newspapers in Europe and the United States.
Two years ago, a Dutch television crime reporter captured hidden-camera footage of van der Sloot saying he was with Holloway when she collapsed on a beach from being drunk. He said he believed she was dead and asked a friend to dump her body in the sea.
Judges subsequently refused to arrest van der Sloot on the basis of the tape.
A spokeswoman for Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty of Mountain Brook, Alabama, told the AP the family was aware of the development in Peru but would have no comment.

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Heh ...

They might have an easier time putting this guy away if they produce more than circumstantial evidence.

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Khross wrote:
Heh ...

They might have an easier time putting this guy away if they produce more than circumstantial evidence.


A friend of mine said they found the girls body wrapped in a blanket in his hotel room with an empty packet of a date rape drug nearby. I haven't yet seen an article to substantiate that but if it's true then there should be plenty more than circumstantial evidence there.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20006616-504083.html

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Early Wednesday morning, Stephany Flores Ramirez was found dead, Peruvian newspaper El Comercio reports, in a hotel room registered under van der Sloot's name. According to police reports, Ramirez had been brutally stabbed and was found


Ok so she was found dead in his hotel room. Thats pretty big there. What can he say to that? Someone broke in and killed her and not him and he was so scared he fled the country instead of calling the police? Not likely...

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Eh, I haven't see any other reports she was stabbed, yet. This is one of those things where the media should probably not be involved until all the facts are assembled.

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Khross, I agree that its too early to know the details of how she died, but the fact that she was found in his hotel room seems like an easily verifiable bit of data that would be readily accessible to the media.
And while in an ideal situation the media would not be involved so early, that never happens, haha!

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I have no doubt she died in his hotel room. I also have no doubt that he's currently eluding authorities looking for him by not being in the country of Chile.

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If (not sure why I'm saying if), if he did in fact murder this girl, I would wonder why he was so sloppy and careless about it when (if) he murdered Natalee there were no loose ends?

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I have money on him being only slightly more intelligent than rock fungus. Maybe he just got lucky the first time ...

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Ahahahahahaha!! Well put, sir. :D

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Khross wrote:
Heh ...

They might have an easier time putting this guy away if they produce more than circumstantial evidence.


It is Peru, do they need more than circumstantial evidence?

Hearsay only, but when Nuevos Sol talks . . .

Can his daddy buy his way out of this one? Throwing good money after bad would be my guess.

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Ugh, can you imagine Holloway's mother right now?

Miserable.


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Ugh, can you imagine Holloway's mother right now?

Miserable.


Not the adjective I'd use, but I understand where you're coming from.

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The punk's father died several months ago, heart attack. Guess he won't be able to save his little miscreant this time.

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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Ugh, can you imagine Holloway's mother right now?

Miserable.


Yeah. I can only imagine. I bet she reaches out to this family to help them through this.

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http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/03/per ... google_cnn

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So they did find a date rape drug. And they got him in custody. Good. Running across the border and cutting and dying your hair is a pretty good indicator.....also that his former attorney refuses to represent him anymore.

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He's confessed to this one.

As an aside, I wish all news articles were so concise.

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LIMA — Peruvian police say Dutchman Joran van der Sloot has confessed to killing a young Lima woman.

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Amen.

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From what I heard, he confessed because Peru tends toward more lenient sentences for cooperation.

Why do I get the feeling he is going to get away easy on this one.

Natalee Holloway's mother was right. I heard her say that even though Joran got away with Natalee's murder, karma will come around and he will get his. Sure enough, he slipped up and murdered again.

He is a miserable piece of filth and I hope he gets locked away in the worst prison Peru has to offer.

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He's recanted his confession.

I'm hoping he gets the full 35, but since the murder doesn't seem to premeditated he will probably only get 10-15.

Either way, I doubt he will survive it. The family of the victim is well known in Peru and fairly wealthy. He should die in prison in the first few years.

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Indeed. Perhaps of a "9mm brain hemorrhage"

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I was think more of a pick-axe proctological exam.

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Micheal wrote:
He's recanted his confession.


He really must think that this is going to work again.

"Did I say I murdered her? I meant I flirted with her, then she slipped on a banana peel and broke her neck."

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While we highly suspect he killed Natalee, the courts in Aruba did not feel there is enough evidence to take it to trial. Innocent until proven guilty is one of the tenets of US law, and most places have adopted that concept.

Technically, the murder of the Peruvian lass is still not proven, though I think it will be, lots more evidence to tie it to him.

I'm assuming he is definitely guilty of the Peruvian murder, but the courts will decide that. As Natalee's body was never found, we don't even know for sure she is dead. Heck, she might have been captured and sold as a sex slave, van der Sloot reportedly has been recruiting sex workers from Thailand. He might be guilty of that and not of her murder.

Now I think he killed both girls, and got away with the first one. I don't know that.

For the second one it resembles third degree murder or manslaughter more than first degree murder. We will see where the courts of Peru go with this.

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