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Aizle
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:59 pm 
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Movies by Cameron:

Xenogenesis (1978)
Piranha Part Two: The Spawning (1981)
The Terminator (1984)
Aliens (1986)
The Abyss (1989)
Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991)
True Lies (1994)
Titanic (1997)
Avatar (2009)

I haven't seen the first 2, but I'm going to basically toss those out as you have to eat, and getting his feet wet directing on a full length feature.

The Terminator was a huge success, and really revitalized the action-thriller film. Aliens was another big success, and while technically a sequel, it's really not. As the original Aliens was a horror flick, and Aliens is an action-thriller. I personally liked the Abyss, although the ending was rushed and way too deus ex machina. However, some of the most exciting underwater filming ever. And the whole drowning/revival scene that was nuts. T2, another great film and a good sequel. True Lies is a hilarious action flick and one of the few films where it looks like Arnold can act. Haven't seen Titanic, but can 60 bagillion weepy women be wrong? Then Avatar setting a new high bar for film success from a monetary standpoint.

Considering he's made a total of 9 feature films EVER, and 5-6 of those have been total block busters, that's one hell of a record.
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Xenogenesis is actually up on youtube:

Part 1:
[youtube]bMCptmPodzY[/youtube]

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[youtube]53UL_dUqY5s[/youtube]
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Interesting...some of the ideas in that short film saw life later on. Kinda cool.

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Interesting...some of the ideas in that short film saw life later on. Kinda cool.


Oh yeah, you can definitely see parts of both Terminator and Ripley fighting the Queen in Aliens clear as day.

Also, when he's hanging off the ledge at the end? DiCaprio in titanic! LOL
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Saw it in IMAX 3d this weekend ...

Bloody awesome.

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I finally broke down and watched this. Of Cameron's movies, I've seen Aliens and T2, but I never saw Titanic.

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The plot was exactly as I expected, predictable and derivative. The characters, by extensions, while not completely 2-dimensional, weren't exactly deep or profound. Well, Neytiri, Jake "Jakesully" Sully. Dr. Grace, Trudy and some of the supporting Na'vi like Moat were tolerable and even pleasant. But Col. Quaritch was just comically bad, almost a buffonish antagonist. I've heard him described as cartoonish, and I must concur.

However, none of that matters. The movie absolutely did what it set out to do and the reason was the attention to detail. The world, the Na'vi culture (even if derivative), the way the flora and fauna was exotic yet believable, it was all incredibly captivating. It enhanced the plot and characters, it made multiplied their appeal by several fold causing them to be incredibly magnetic.

If you hold the movie up to the light, it doesn't stand the test, but if you just give it a chance and let it entertain you, the faults somehow just melt away. It's like one of those pictures with a hidden image.

I would call this movie the Half-Life of cinema. Simply because it took a mundane story and characters and presenting them in a way with such great attention to detail, with such polish and verve, that the movie captivates you and makes you care about seeing the resolution, even if you could forecast it in great deal from miles away. And it does so with a charm and swagger that makes you want to watch it again.

I read somewhere that Cameron had his director of photography use this virtual camera system which allowed the CGI to be rendered real time during motion-capture scenes so they could see what everything would look like before they call it the final take. His DoP did an amazing job with it. Cameron did very well seeing his vision through but trusting the details (and I'm sure they were plentiful to say the least) to the massive team responsible for this movie.


It's being re-released in theaters August 2010 with 6 more minutes of footage. I'll be the first in line, this time. Remember, I saw this on a 42" screen on standard definition DVD.

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Talya wrote:
Tarantino has never made a great movie. Tarantino has made great scenes that comprise mediocre movies. Every one of his movies is a disjointed collection of awesome scenes that together, somehow fail to even equal the sum of their parts. His magnum opus, Pulp Fiction, is the perfect example: Memorable characters and scenes that will live on in people's minds forever, but the movie just wasn't that good. It's the same for everything he's done.

Cameron is a complete moviemaker. He may lack originality (Let's face it -- Aliens was a sequel, Titanic was based on historical events, Avatar is Pocahontas with blue space elves), but rather than using Tarantino's approach of dipping a bunch of neat ideas in glue and throwing them at the wall and hoping they form a cohesive whole, Cameron's more traditional holistic approach to film-making actually creates entire movies that were memorable. (I hated Titanic and the Abyss, for the record.)


Pulp Fiction had some really awesome and profound ideas that were coherent throughout the film. The chronological order helps develop the character. It doesn't blunt you over the head with them an incredibly obvious fashion, but they're there.

Jules Winnfield's rebirth personified in how he delivers his faux-biblical scripture, the use of the bathroom and it's importance in personifying death approaching Vincent Vega, the whole Butch/Marsellus Wallace subplot all tie together a tale about two men, taking two different paths when a fork in the road presents itself. To call the movie "not that good" is beyond me.

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Rafael wrote:
It's being re-released in theaters August 2010 with 6 more minutes of footage. I'll be the first in line, this time. Remember, I saw this on a 42" screen on standard definition DVD.

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To call the movie "not that good" is beyond me.
Pulp Fiction is easily the most overrated movie since 2001.
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To call the movie "not that good" is beyond me.
Pulp Fiction is easily the most overrated movie since 2001.

Inglorious Basterds was that way for me. I saw it after all the awards and I'm like "You've GOT to be kidding! This steaming pile of crap won ANYTHING? " I don't even know how it got nominated.

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Taskiss wrote:
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Rafael wrote:
To call the movie "not that good" is beyond me.
Pulp Fiction is easily the most overrated movie since 2001.

Inglorious Basterds was that way for me. I saw it after all the awards and I'm like "You've GOT to be kidding! This steaming pile of crap won ANYTHING? " I don't even know how it got nominated.


Wow. I actually went into it after all the hype, assuming it wouldn't be good, and I thought it was excellent.
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Rafael wrote:
But Col. Quaritch was just comically bad, almost a buffonish antagonist. I've heard him described as cartoonish, and I must concur.


That's interesting, because I went to see it with a friend of mine who was Airborne Infantry, and his comment was the Col. Quartch was spot on and he personally knew 5 guys that were EXACTLY like him.
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Darkroland wrote:
Taskiss wrote:
Timmit wrote:
Pulp Fiction is easily the most overrated movie since 2001.

Inglorious Basterds was that way for me. I saw it after all the awards and I'm like "You've GOT to be kidding! This steaming pile of crap won ANYTHING? " I don't even know how it got nominated.


Wow. I actually went into it after all the hype, assuming it wouldn't be good, and I thought it was excellent.

I thought Basterds was like every other Tarantino film: some brilliant sequences ("Cat People," the climax in the theater, etc.), strong enough to leave me with an overall good impression, but not really cohesive.
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Kaffis, that is the funniest thing ever. Just reinforces my belief that all good things come from Wisconsin.

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I really hope that was just a bit.

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I can't even watch the whole thing... the pain.

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Kaffis that was...well words cannot express how scary that was!

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LOL, love the tree of souls.
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Ugh, every time I see this thread I think it is about Avatar: The Last Airbender.

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That can't be real. People really aren't that screwed up in the head are they?

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Nah, I don't think it's real. It's a pretty good parody, though.

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Avatar & Aliens are the same movie

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Avatar & Aliens are the same movie


That was pretty rad.

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