The Glade 4.0

Unless you're a spy. It'll be hilarious, because there'll definitely be an achievement for repairing a buddy's deployables. So one or two spies will have the engineers shooting each other in a panic as they come around to bang on each other's ****.

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"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

If they don't put in an option to deal with Spies...

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Raell Kromwell

Raell, you need to post this stuff, not just link it to me.

Pure awesome. Thanks.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

I have this, but i've never really played it. maybe i should read up on it. Any good place to do that (since I don't have a paper manual and it looks a bit more complicated than your regular fps deathmatch?)

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

No manual per say,

I would say the TFT2 wiki be one of the best places to start

http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Main_Page

Besides the Spy/Engineer and Medic classes it really isnt all that much different than other FPS's.

But with the last Update, they added a tutorial type deal now, which is actually kinda cool. Besides the 3 classes mention above, and some unique map types, its not hard at all to get into. The PC version almost 3 years later, is still very active. I would run through the Tutorial, grab a Soldier and start zapping some folks with Rockets.

Engie update: Day One!

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Oh my...

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Raell Kromwell

That is AWESOME. Finally my favorite class getting some love.

From the link...

What is the wrench log supposed to be? There is a list of names that are being commemorated for something.

Did they possibly create the new weapon prior to being officially released?

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It's a craftable golden wrench, limited to 100 worldwide.

They patched in the recipe last week, and over the weekend, the first 25 got made. They're adding a page to the update for every subsequent 25 made.

When somebody makes one, it does a live announcement to everybody playing worldwide. I saw #27's and #28's announcements last night.

You can probably find a YouTube video of it in action -- a kill with the Golden Wrench turns your victim into a golden statue instead of gibbing them.

Based on the announced limited quantity of wrenches, I doubt this is one of the update's normal weapons.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Best idea I've seen to get people to clean out their inventory before they announce some new thing to crafting, to keep hoarding to a minimum.

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Les Zombis et les Loups-Garous!

New update is up. I like the idea. Not sure if you have to be in line of sight of the sentry or not. Plus it gives engineers something to do other than bang away on their sentry.

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Les Zombis et les Loups-Garous!

Ohhh daddy likes. Wonder if you can shoot spys with it now?

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Raell Kromwell

I wonder how useful a manually controlled sentry will be. They seem to do fine and dandy w/o any interference.

I assume the shield, doubled rate of fire and missile launch upgrade will make up for this.

Ditto on sentry line of sight for usage. Maybe LOS just to activate, then the engie can wander wherever.

I'm going to put it out there that LOS is unnecessary. Perhaps because if the engie has to be in range of the sentry to use, he will then be in "sentry-vision" mode thereby making himself vulnerable. If the sentry is inactive when the Wrangler is shut down, shooting the engie first will be a fantastic strategy as it will render the sentry useless for a few seconds.

/ponders how the shield will affect a spy's ability to sap it.

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Manually controlled sentries are less predictable than normal. A sentry can be foiled by a player quickly darting in and out of cover. But if a player is controlling the sentry, he can predict when the player will pop out of the corner and pelt the other player right as he pops out of cover (as well as have missiles already there to greet him as he pops out). On top of that, the sentries will do more damage (higher rate of fire) when player controlled.


Just thought of something. Ooooh. I wonder if player-controlled sentry guns don't emit the "beep beep beeps" that an automated sentry that is scanning the area does. Now that could be really handy too.

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Les Zombis et les Loups-Garous!

Don't forget, a manually controlled sentry can ignore things like uber medic shielding (and shoot/KB the real threat instead of the medic rushing ahead of his ubered partner), shoot known disguised spies, utilize rocket splash around corners/obstructions, make target priority decisions...

There're a fair number of advantages to trade your shotgun/wrench and automatic tracking for.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

I'm getting really damn sick of waiting for the Meet the Pyro video. I think 3 years is long enough of a wait. No video at all in this release is pretty sad.

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Les Zombis et les Loups-Garous!

The TF2 gods saw fit to give me a Wrangler within the first 1-2 hours of play today (Along with another Sandman, Scotsman's Skullcutter, and an Equilizer) It replaces the pistol, BTW.

Interesting, to say the least. When selected, the sentry immediately gets the shield and stops auto acquiring targets. You remain in the same viewpoint and can freely move about. Wherever your reticule lies is where your sentry is now aiming, whether it has LOS or not (Mind you, the engie does NOT need LOS to his sentry to activate the Wrangler.

M1 - Sentry machine gune
M2 - Sentry rockets.
Manual aim with a hint of auto tracking. Once you lock on and start firing, the sentry minimally tracks your target for some ease of use.
When the sentry becomes "unwrangled" it is then inactive for about 2-3 seconds. (Spy heaven - Stab/sap becomes really easy at that point)
When wrangled, the sentry will use up it's stores of bullets and rockets. At any time, the engie simply switches to his wrench and gives it a few whacks with the wrench to reload.

I didn't get a chance to use it today in, what I would call, a normal match. 6-7 engies on offence, 8-9 on defense. Kinda silly today, but that's to be expected.

Also the ability to pick up your stuff and drop elsewhere adds a whole new dynamic to the engineer. No more boring whacking away at your stuff while the rest of the team is far from you. Base relocation is easier now.

I have not gotten the Frontier Justice, Southern Hospitality, or the Gunslinger yet, so I can't offer anything on them.

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The engineer can move any of his objects? I must have missed that bit of info. That's pretty nice.

Does the sentry still passively beep when wrangled?

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Les Zombis et les Loups-Garous!

Missed that subtlety. I will take a closer listen later.

The wrangled sentry, when being fired, has a completely different sound, though.

Also, and I never noticed this, the normal sentries all make different beeping paterns based on level of upgrade. Picked that tidbit up from the TF2 wiki.

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Oh yeah, I noticed that from the get go. Basically, the pattern is: 1 beep for a level 1. 2 beeps for a level 2. 3 beeps for a level 3. Handy to know if you are about to turn a corner into a sentry. If you only hear 1 beep per pattern, then you're probably ok to take it on.

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Les Zombis et les Loups-Garous!

Hehehe. Those were pretty good. Spy was the best. The Medic/Heavy though...
/shudder

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Raell Kromwell

The demoman wasn't doing Riverdance. Fail.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Isn't Riverdance an irish thing?

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Raell Kromwell