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From your post, it doesn't seem to me that much if anything (other than your posting name) has changed. For what it's worth, good luck on the "new" you.

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Gorse wrote:
From your post, it doesn't seem to me that much if anything (other than your posting name) has changed. For what it's worth, good luck on the "new" you.


It's not "new". It's just that right now I am at least 80% defined and not 70% or so (these are rough numbers...). I existentially figured out what I need to believe in order to want to do anything.

Fun/small stress > Pain > Death > Stress

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Gorse wrote:
From your post, it doesn't seem to me that much if anything (other than your posting name) has changed. For what it's worth, good luck on the "new" you.


Also... I'm not going to apologize for being me. It's fine if others don't want to accept my individuality, but at least I accept it.

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This isn't a blog spot. Go get a MySpace account.

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This isn't a blog spot. Go get a MySpace account.


No. Ban me.

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Why?

What have you done that deserves banning?

Your post indicates you really need the help you are refusing. That isn't a bannable offense. Then again you could just be messing with us, again.

Why do you want to be banned? Do you want your whole ISP banned? Why?

First, show that post to your parents, have one of them contact me and we can go from there. Right now you seem unstable, a danger to yourself more than others, but are still being relatively polite.

Why are you doing this to yourself?

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It was more like a "I won't debate whether I can have a blog here, ban me if you can't handle it."

I'm not trying to mess with people. I'm expressing myself and this is how I am. Other people like to interpret it that way though. Maybe I'm just being me.

I'm very unstable, but that's the only way to grow as a person. You don't do it by being Mr. Nice Guy for 40 years until you luckily get a wife.

My parents were too good to give me drama so I was unable to emotionally develop. I need to inflict it on myself.

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Yes, because drama is the only way to emotionally develop!

Empathy and caring about others is also a good way to emotionally develop, but since you have thrown that out the window, I would say that emotional development is not your primary concern.

Quite honestly, after the statement "I am God", I can't take much about you wanting to grow and develop seriously.

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Yes, because drama is the only way to emotionally develop!

Empathy and caring about others is also a good way to emotionally develop, but since you have thrown that out the window, I would say that emotional development is not your primary concern.

Quite honestly, after the statement "I am God", I can't take much about you wanting to grow and develop seriously.


Artificial empathy and caring will never help me. I care about many things and it isn't artificial. I don't care about many things and it isn't artificial. I try to be as genuine as possible. It is to make myself a better person (in my own eyes) and to get girls.

Whenever I feel bad emotions, I just remember that everything is in my head and I need to enjoy the world. That is what I mean by saying I am God.

Drama is difficult to avoid when you have low social inhibitions. However, it seems to bother other people much more than myself... I don't even register it much. Maybe this adds to drama?

It's ok if you don't want to understand.

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I just want to throw this out there, in case your omniscience hadn't noticed: getting girls by doing whatever feels right to you may work, but keeping them requires you to think about and value what feels right to them.

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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
I just want to throw this out there, in case your omniscience hadn't noticed: getting girls by doing whatever feels right to you may work, but keeping them requires you to think about and value what feels right to them.


I don't want to keep them unless they are a fantastic fit for me, which is rare because I'm so different. The best way to get girls and to keep them is to be a better person. I always try to be my idea of the best person, for myself. It's not really about the girls. It's about me.


Keeping girls requires a lot of compromise. I am not debating you. I agree with your point actually.

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It's quite paradoxical... at one level (my free will) I want the girls really badly and go straight for them. At another level, I am outside myself looking inwards and seeing what makes me a better person. So exerting free will (losing control) is just like controlling myself to do so...

It's interesting how many social paradoxes there are. Are girls compelled to follow charming guys around? Are charming guys compelled to go for pretty girls? What does autonomy even mean?

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It's not really about the girls. It's about me.

This is what I'm talking about, though. So long as it's about you, i doubt you'll find a girl that's a fantastic fit.

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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
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It's not really about the girls. It's about me.

This is what I'm talking about, though. So long as it's about you, i doubt you'll find a girl that's a fantastic fit.


Girls don't like needy guys... you might be right though. I'm not a mature person and I'm mostly just looking to have fun interacting with people.

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Just because you don't immediately feel empathy does not mean it's artificial. It means you may have to take some time, and consider things before you can see what about the person or their position you empathize with.

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Just because you don't immediately feel empathy does not mean it's artificial. It means you may have to take some time, and consider things before you can see what about the person or their position you empathize with.


Empathy doesn't help with getting girls or self-improvement, or for adventuring. Christopher Columbus didn't empathize with the natives, and Christopher Columbus had a very interesting life. Empathy is an emotion needed by servants to remain as servants. It is cultural in America because everyone feels like a servant (guys don't feel entitled to talk to or touch random girls, for example). Empathy for selfish reasons can be good though. Empathy is a good emotion for survival reasons within a culture or tribe, but I don't belong to any.

I prefer honesty of my intentions over empathy. I courageously do what I want and announce what I want. I don't lie or use backhanded methods to achieve my goals. I don't treat girls like construction projects... example... "maybe if I touch her less in the present... I can touch her more later!"

I guess empathy can be good for relationships, but I am not looking for one. I don't disregard empathy when I do feel it. I also don't artificially create empathy. That's called being a nice guy... a.k.a. being fake.

Inventing emotion = form of lying = being fake = being a snake = not being a good person.

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Something I realized...


Every day I feel like I'm going to wake up the next morning dead. I'm always slightly surprised that I'm not. I don't even think about happiness because I always feel like I'm about to die from social suicide. (other people killing me... not myself...)

Talking to girls so much affects my reproductive chances and it feels the same as facing death. It feels identical to crashing cars, and I love the feeling.

Maybe this is happiness?

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I don't think you have a clue what empathy is, judging by the way you talk.

Empathy is understanding where someone else is coming from. It does not have to effect your intentions, but it should make you consider what it would be like to be in someone else's shoes.

It allows you to play out situations that you are not directly involved, to analyze who others react to them, to how you would have reacted to them.

No matter how free and loose you are, you will not experience nearly as many situations that you can analyze behavior in as if you were to empathize with those around you, therefore you will not experience as much or as fast of emotional growth.

I would personally say there is nothing wrong, per se, with your attitude towards girls- if you are being honest, you probably aren't hurting them by misleading them, so what they do with you is completely their choice.

I would say, from reading what you post, that you are someone with extremely low self confidence trying to mask it by acting like you have loads of it.

In the end, you are just shielding yourself from actual growth by making excuses for why you act the way you do.

You constantly state that you are 'special' or 'different', which you may think of as being a way to accept yourself for who you are.

In the end, it's just a way to not have to accept yourself.

You give yourself a free pass to ignore societal rules and mores without having the confidence to say which ones you are bypassing and why.

You go from emotional highs to emotional lows, and then rationalize your way out of the emotional lows back to emotional highs by telling yourself that other people don't understand you and you are different.

You revel in 'cheap' thrills, you say you talk to girls- but do you talk about things that have any real significance, or do you talk about the superficial?

Do you try to find people who are your emotional and intellectual equals (or betters) so that they might challenge you by forcing your growth? Or are you happy to hang out with those that you dwarf in intellect and stability.

At least that's my 2 cp.

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NephyrS wrote:
I don't think you have a clue what empathy is, judging by the way you talk.

Empathy is understanding where someone else is coming from. It does not have to effect your intentions, but it should make you consider what it would be like to be in someone else's shoes.


Ok, then I have empathy by this definition.

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It allows you to play out situations that you are not directly involved, to analyze who others react to them, to how you would have reacted to them.

No matter how free and loose you are, you will not experience nearly as many situations that you can analyze behavior in as if you were to empathize with those around you, therefore you will not experience as much or as fast of emotional growth.

My experience is more important than anyone elses.

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I would personally say there is nothing wrong, per se, with your attitude towards girls- if you are being honest, you probably aren't hurting them by misleading them, so what they do with you is completely their choice.

I would say, from reading what you post, that you are someone with extremely low self confidence trying to mask it by acting like you have loads of it.


If you live your entire life by "acting" with high self-confidence, then by definition don't you have it? Do people with "real" high self-confidence, who never act on it, actually have it?

So paradoxical! Someone with ultimate high-self confidence can always act on it to get girls. Someone else with ultimate high-self confidence doesn't care about trying to get girls!!

Should sexual desire be eliminated from the psyche? That's a good question. I think Buddhism teaches this... however what's the point of doing anything if not to maximize reproductive potential (think Genghis Khan...)?

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In the end, you are just shielding yourself from actual growth by making excuses for why you act the way you do.

You constantly state that you are 'special' or 'different', which you may think of as being a way to accept yourself for who you are.

In the end, it's just a way to not have to accept yourself.


Paradoxical, isn't it!! You accept yourself and don't at the same time! I love paradoxes!

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You give yourself a free pass to ignore societal rules and mores without having the confidence to say which ones you are bypassing and why.


I try to bypass ones in order to improve my quality of life.

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You go from emotional highs to emotional lows, and then rationalize your way out of the emotional lows back to emotional highs by telling yourself that other people don't understand you and you are different.

So you think it's better to maintain emotional lows??? I hope you don't become a psychologist!

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You revel in 'cheap' thrills, you say you talk to girls- but do you talk about things that have any real significance, or do you talk about the superficial?


Yes, quite often. I talk about everything on my mind. I'm very honest. If girls are "cheap" thrills, then what is a real thrill?

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Do you try to find people who are your emotional and intellectual equals (or betters) so that they might challenge you by forcing your growth? Or are you happy to hang out with those that you dwarf in intellect and stability.

At least that's my 2 cp.


I like to find people who are intellectually smart, because they're more interesting. Obviously they are difficult to find.

Thanks for your 2 cp (not being sarcastic here - it's hard to tell online)!

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LadyKate wrote:
Lex, you need Jesus.


Thank you, but I don't want to follow a religion of anti-fun.

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Serious question...

Why, to you, is it so much about "getting girls"?

Don't you want more than to just get a girl in the manner in which you speak.

My wife is the only girl I ever "got". I didn't need to pursue others to enjoy cheap thrills. I met one who turned out to be the most wonderful and influential person in my life who I am now married to for 7 years and starting my family with.

All this happiness and I never felt the need to "get girls" as you so eloquently put it.

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Serious question...

Why, to you, is it so much about "getting girls"?

Don't you want more than to just get a girl in the manner in which you speak.

My wife is the only girl I ever "got". I didn't need to pursue others to enjoy cheap thrills. I met one who turned out to be the most wonderful and influential person in my life who I am now married to for 7 years and starting my family with.

All this happiness and I never felt the need to "get girls" as you so eloquently put it.


That's a very good question.

"Getting girls" is about facing the existential abyss and dominating it. It is about living. It is war without physical danger.

I will settle if I stumble into a fantastic girl.

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