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Well, they had to squeeze him to get him in there.


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5'6" or 5'7", IIRC. But short guys can be leading men. It's tall guys who get screwed and have to settle for villains.

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Right. Plus, he's not playing 5'2" characters.

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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
5'6" or 5'7", IIRC. But short guys can be leading men. It's tall guys who get screwed and have to settle for villains.


I'd be happy to have the career of a Christopher Lee or a Christopher Walken.


Reeves and Neeson are the only two "tall guys" that break the bad-guy = tall paradigm. At least off the top of my head.

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5'6" or 5'7", IIRC. But short guys can be leading men. It's tall guys who get screwed and have to settle for villains.


I'd be happy to have the career of a Christopher Lee or a Christopher Walken.


Reeves and Neeson are the only two "tall guys" that break the bad-guy = tall paradigm. At least off the top of my head.


Vince Vaughn, if he counts, broke that paradigm as well. He's 6'5".

Though to be honest, Vaughn's been best when he plays a villain, such as "Clay Pigeons."

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What's wrong with being 5'2" ? :p

I could look him in the eye..instead of chest like most men )

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Tom Cruise's problem isn't that he's playing Tom Cruise in every movie; it's that he's playing Maverick in every movie.

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I loved The Last Samurai and typically enjoy most of Cruise's films.


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What's wrong with being 5'2" ? :p

I could look him in the eye..instead of chest like most men )


Perhaps, but you're cuter ;)

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Tom Cruise is waaayy cuter lol

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Tom Cruise has a penis(I'm assuming). That automatically makes him not cute because penis is gross.

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5'6" or 5'7", IIRC. But short guys can be leading men. It's tall guys who get screwed and have to settle for villains.


I'd be happy to have the career of a Christopher Lee or a Christopher Walken.


Reeves and Neeson are the only two "tall guys" that break the bad-guy = tall paradigm. At least off the top of my head.


MJ in Space Jam.

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5'6" or 5'7", IIRC. But short guys can be leading men. It's tall guys who get screwed and have to settle for villains.


I'd be happy to have the career of a Christopher Lee or a Christopher Walken.


Reeves and Neeson are the only two "tall guys" that break the bad-guy = tall paradigm. At least off the top of my head.


MJ in Space Jam.


Yea, perhaps I should have clarified "actors" in that statement.


Vince Vaughn doesn't count as most of his roles aren't good guy/bad guy, they're comedy, and while comedies usually have a foil (such as his role in Anchorman) they're not true baddies.

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Jeff Goldblum
James Stewart
John Wayne
Chuck Connors
Liam Neeson
Clint Eastwood
Tom Selleck
Gary Cooper
Charleton Heston
Gregory Peck
Pierce Brosnan
Will Smith...

Do those guys qualify?

edit: I think Arnie is like 6-2"

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Vindicarre wrote:
Jeff Goldblum
James Stewart
John Wayne
Chuck Connors
Liam Neeson
Clint Eastwood
Tom Selleck
Gary Cooper
Charleton Heston
Gregory Peck
Pierce Brosnan
Will Smith...

Do those guys qualify?

edit: I think Arnie is like 6-2"


They might... I'm not familiar with all their heights.

It also depends on where we draw the line for "tall."

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I think it's a misconception that Tom Cruise's character is the titular last samurai. I think it is actually referring to Katsumoto, who really was the last to fully live the samurai lifestyle.

Tom just happens to be the star, so he gets the cover shot. IMO, they should have put him side by side with Ken Watanabe.


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What's wrong with being 5'2" ? :p

I could look him in the eye..instead of chest like most men )


I counter with what's wrong with looking a man in the chest?? They do it to us all the time!! :P

(Besides, a man's chest is very sexy! :D )

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Arnie is 5'8" tops. He wears high heeled cowboy boots with lifts in them for public appearances.

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I've only met Arnold once(mom worked for the special Olympics) and I was like, 5 years old at the time...so he was **** gigantic. Couldn't really tell you how tall he was. I just wanted everyone to know that I've met the greatest action hero of all time.

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DFK! wrote:
Vindicarre wrote:
Jeff Goldblum
James Stewart
John Wayne
Chuck Connors
Liam Neeson
Clint Eastwood
Tom Selleck
Gary Cooper
Charleton Heston
Gregory Peck
Pierce Brosnan
Will Smith...

Do those guys qualify?

edit: I think Arnie is like 6-2"


They might... I'm not familiar with all their heights.

It also depends on where we draw the line for "tall."


They're all 6'2" or taller according to what I've found.

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Arnie is 5'8" tops. He wears high heeled cowboy boots with lifts in them for public appearances.


Nah, I've met the man and I'm ~6'; he's taller than I am.

He's 6' 1 1/2" - 6' 2"
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Vince Basile is a Canadian bodybuilder who competed during the 1960s and 1970s.
Shortly after becoming Mr.Canada 1970, Vince emigrated to Austrailia where he bought his first gym and later a factory which he uses to design and build gym equipment. Today Vince still lives in Austrailia, where he now owns a much larger gym, is still designing gym equipment and actively lifts weights into his 60s.

Typically, although many bodybuilding contests used to (and still do) have height categories for competitions, there was no 'strict' measuring process by which a bodybuilder's height catagory was decided. Instead the bodybuilders were trusted to enter the correct height catagory that their genuine heights fell into. It should be noted that in general, the 'tall' category has usually been for heights over 5'9", which was the category Arnold was always entered.
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Knowing that Vince Basile was the only individual to ever go on record as having measured Arnold Schwarzenegger, we at Arnoldheight.com felt obliged to look into his story. Vince's story first came to light in an internet bodybuilding forum, when, after learning that so many people were claiming Arnold to be significantly under six feet, he decided to step in to tell everyone what he knew.

In Febuary of 1969, several bodybuilders including Arnold and Vince decided to measure themselves against the scale in Mit's gym of Honolulu, Hawaii.

"Several of the guys there claimed certain heights and everyone was at least 1/2 inch shorter on Mit's scale. Arnold claimed 6' 2" but measured 6' 1 1/2" that evening. I did say that he might be 6-2 in the morning."

Vince is of course correct concerning how everyone shrinks over the course of the day. As the day progresses, water in the disks of the spine gets compressed due to gravity causing up to an inch of temporary height loss. As Arnold was measured 6'1 1/2", it is highly probable that he would be 6'2" and potentially slightly over at first thing in the morning.

"There were several other people there when I measured Arnold and several other guys. Paul Graham from Australia and Bob Bruce from New Zealand who promoted contests were two others I remember getting measured. Both of those guys were under 5-8 and I have a good idea how tall I am. I measured 5-9 1/2 that day and that is about right so the gauge was accurate."

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Say what you will about Tom Cruise, but he is a great actor...in fact, I love a lot of his movies. Minority Report kicks ***.

I disagree... he does an amazing job of playing Tom Cruise and has done so in every movie he's ever been in, but I've never seen him immerse in a character enough to let go of his Tom Cruise-ness. "Tom Cruise as white man samurai", "Tom Cruise as Jerry Maguire", "Tom Cruise as Lestat". That doesn't mean he's not enjoyable, but it makes him something other than an actor. He's actually like the old move stars, John Wayne was the same way. Compare this to, say Gary Oldman who can convincingly play Sid Vicious, a vampire, a rogue wizard, or an evil futuristic overlord with a southern accent without being 'Gary Oldman' in every role.

So he's basically Johnny Depp then...


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Say what you will about Tom Cruise, but he is a great actor...in fact, I love a lot of his movies. Minority Report kicks ***.

I disagree... he does an amazing job of playing Tom Cruise and has done so in every movie he's ever been in, but I've never seen him immerse in a character enough to let go of his Tom Cruise-ness. "Tom Cruise as white man samurai", "Tom Cruise as Jerry Maguire", "Tom Cruise as Lestat". That doesn't mean he's not enjoyable, but it makes him something other than an actor. He's actually like the old move stars, John Wayne was the same way. Compare this to, say Gary Oldman who can convincingly play Sid Vicious, a vampire, a rogue wizard, or an evil futuristic overlord with a southern accent without being 'Gary Oldman' in every role.

So he's basically Johnny Depp then...

Heresy! I'm sorry, but Johnny Depp can actually act. Many times, I've watched a movie and basically forgotten that I was watching Johnny Depp. But, with Tom Cruise movies, that feeling never goes away. You always see Tom Cruise, the actor, instead of the role that's being played.

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I'm with Aethien. Johnny Depp is awesome. He is not the same character in every movie.

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I'm with Aethien. Johnny Depp is awesome. He is not the same character in every movie.


No way, he only plays one character, with slight variations. He needs to step away from Tim Burton.


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There are certainly roles that Johnny Depp is drawn to because he likes to and has a talent for playing the weird, off-beat. But you can't look at me and tell me that the Ninth Gate is the same character as Pirates of the Caribbean, or even that Fear and Loathing and Willy Wonka share a character.

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