The Glade 4.0

Private Sector Jobs -

We need a massive public works project. Perhaps high speed rail, all over the country. Perhaps an apollo project on renewable energy. Something that stimulates aggregate demand in such a way that everyone starts hiring.

But, according to the people that want to withhold food to the starving, that's crazy. Sigh.

19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

The purpose of measuring jobs is NOT to show that people are employed - its a measure of productive power and utilization.

19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

We didn't lose 9 million jobs, we have a colossal THIRTY FOUR MILLION unemployed that weren't in 2000 - nine million who lost their job and another twenty-five million who came to (or were born into and reached working age in) the country but never got a job!

Monte, you are aware that all of the temporary stimulus jobs were added to those numbers that your illustration is using, correct?

So which is it, Monte? You seem to be saying here that this program is a bad idea, because what we need is even more government spending. Furthermore, if what you are saying is true, then with the pre-President Obama deficit spending done by President Bush we never would have been in a recession in the first place; because, as you said earlier when you were retconing the economic history of President Reagan, it doesn't really matter what the money gets spent on.

19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

The numbers keep going up, although not as much as they might have had we had a much stronger stimulus.

Actually, he is correct in small part about ARRA creating jobs: it adds so many requirements on the healthcare industry for both compliance and IT needs that healthcare IT is booming and risk management is having to expand dramatically as well. So, yeah, there are some jobs there, adding dramatically to the cost of healthcare.

19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

I'm sorry, what? "Temporary stimulus jobs"?

So, people did not work, and did not get paid?

The numbers keep going up, although not as much as they might have had we had a much stronger stimulus.

The Reinvestment Act created a whole hell of a lot of jobs. They are real jobs. They count. Government spending increased aggregate demand and jobs were created. That's how it works.

If we paid thousands of people to build thousands wrought iron sculptures of Greek Gods, would those count as jobs?

Jobs created are far more easliy measured than jobs cost by the same legislation. How many small businesses have or will be closed, how many primary care practitioners have faced lay-offs for their staffs, how many large corporations have contracted to brace against the coming economic storm? My guess is, "far more than were created by a government takeover of 1/5 of the American economy".

You are also correct. Just because I didn't extend the logic of "adding dramatically to the cost of healthcare" doesn't mean I'm not aware of its consequences.

19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

Honestly, I assumed you knew that. That was added for "others".

Haha, ok. I just think we should give credit on correctness where it's due, even if it hasn't been fully thought-out in terms of consequences.

19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.