The Glade 4.0

^^ This.

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"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Jesus of Nazareth

One thing I would suggest for whoever does the modding - don't post warnings to any specific person in the public forums; just send that particular person a PM, make a generic public comment about keeping it civil, and, if absolutely necessary, quietly delete any offending post(s). Direct, public admonitions to a specific person just prompt face-saving defensiveness by that person and bandwagon douchebaggery by everyone else.

Who?

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"I love this **** team right here."
-Jonathan Quick

No post should ever be deleted except by the author, IMO.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

Well, I can think of a few exceptions to that rule, but I doubt that they'd ever come up here. As far as I know, they never have, anyway.

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Sail forth! steer for the deep waters only!
Reckless, O soul, exploring, I with thee, and thou with me;
For we are bound where mariner has not yet dared to go,
And we will risk the ship, ourselves and all.

Agreed!!

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"Said I never had much use for one, never said I didn't know how to use one!"~ Matthew Quigley

"nothing like a little meow in bed at night" ~ Bruskey

"I gotta float my stick same as you" Hondo Lane

"Fill your hand you son of a *****!"

I disagree, though I think a relatively light touch is called for. But if you leave a thread unlocked and an aggressive/rude comment sitting there, the target of that comment is probably going to feel the need to respond, and other people are probably going to chime in, and so the whole thing keeps spiraling. As we've seen on multiple occasions, most people here can't seem to leave snarky comments unanswered, even if only to "set the record straight." Better all around for the mod to just privately tell the offenders to grow the **** up and delete their b.s. from the public threads to spare everyone else the inevitable sh*tstorm.

So you're for censoring to enforce the rules? How, then, do you deal with the outcry when you ban a repeat offender for seemingly no reason? After all, you've gone and deleted all their offenses.

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"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

That's what locking threads is for.

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Like Mook said, that's what locking threads is for, if it gets out of control.

There's no reason to delete posts; in fact people shouldn't even be deleting their own posts after the next post is made. That just creates new problems where someone says something inflammatory, gets everyone riled up, then deletes it and later claims they never said it. We already have enough problems with 3 crashed boards worth of history and people trying to deny that they acted a certain way on them..

What's "better" is to just let people argue it out a little bit. When it starts taking over multiple threads and getting really ridiculous the thread can be locked. The evidence should remain there though. When mods start deleting threads we start ending up with a Miss Manners board where you can't discuss anything except in the most mealy-mouthed way (i.e. every post has a line in it saying "please don't flame me!" or "not trying to offend anyone!" or some ****), and inevitably stuff starts getting deleted because someone finds the viewpoint unacceptable.

The goal of moderation isn't to make the board perfect, it's to curb the excessive, out-of-control stuff where every thread becomes the same argument because some people are so disgusted that someone disagrees with them, and the simply repeating yourself over and over in multiple threads without answering anyone so that actual discussion can't move forward because no one can even find the disucssion amid the bullshit.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

That's bloody brilliant.

Having a common moderator account is a bad idea. If everyone uses the same account, there's no way for the administrators to know who did what. So if someone did abuse moderation power, we'd have no way to know who did it. If we did go with secret moderation (we're not), we'd go with a series of moderator accounts, like Mod Ranger Red, Mod Ranger Blue, etc.

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doesn't IP address posted from get logged?

Yes, but that's no barrier to someone who knows how to use an anonymous proxy and/or Tor.

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Sail forth! steer for the deep waters only!
Reckless, O soul, exploring, I with thee, and thou with me;
For we are bound where mariner has not yet dared to go,
And we will risk the ship, ourselves and all.

Moderator Moon
Moderator Mars...

Moderator Heero
Moderator Duo...

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Holy shitsnacks!

You see, I actually think locking whole threads is worse than deleting specific posts, because that cuts off the conversation for everyone when it's usually just 2 or 3 people being a**hats.


Yeah, you and I just disagree on the whole politeness thing. I don't see being polite/respectful as being mealy-mouthed; I see it as a basic requirement for reasonable and sustainably enjoyable conversation, and as a marker of good character.

That's why I've been splitting and locking.

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We could go back to the post rating system! What could possibly go wrong?

Hehehe.

By the way, I'm totally cool with deleting posts and killing threads that get out of hand. Seriously. It's much better than punitive action. If folks want their opinions to be heard after it's been deleted, they can reword it.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

The problem I have with post deletion is simply that people need to own their words, whether good or bad. IMHO, if you say something you regret, it's bad form to just delete it like it never happened. Leave it there and just apologize.

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Sail forth! steer for the deep waters only!
Reckless, O soul, exploring, I with thee, and thou with me;
For we are bound where mariner has not yet dared to go,
And we will risk the ship, ourselves and all.

Someone appologize on this forum? Not likely.

This. Very annoying when this happens.

Why don't you start?

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Moderator Uranus...

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^This.

And I've seen a handful of times when people have apologized around here, and I've seen many instances of "my bad" or "I was mistaken" or other mild forms of apologetic speech. I've done it. I've seen others do it. A lot of apologizing goes on in PMs as well.

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"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Jesus of Nazareth

And what exactly am I supposed to be apologizing for?

Your primary dislike seems to be for me personally, rather than anything I've actually done to anyone here. Shall I appologize for breathing?