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you know... if it were not for the fact that he would be made into a martyr.. I would say just kill the **** and get it over with.

This Jones cockmunch is the type of ******* Heine wrote about...

His douchbaggery ranks up there right with the people mentioned in this article...

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He may have the right to do so... But I think any **** who is willing to destroy KNOWLEDGE deserves to be put down.

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Idiot "pastor" says he received a promise from an imam who is in no way associated with the Park51 project to move it away from Ground Zero.



It appears the "pastor" was talking to Iman.
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After gaining entrance, the rampaging jihadists burned every Bible and destroyed every cross they could get their hands on before setting both buildings alight, according to sources who spoke to Israel Today.

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I thought your link would be to the articles where protests in Afghanistan to the proposed burning of the Quoran involved burning American flags... we protest you burning our symbols by burning yours first!


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Linked article is from 2007. While this does not make it any more reprehensible... an event in the past cannot be undone by more destruction as a protest to something that does not even involve florida or you congregation.

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I want to protest this by burning Justin Bieber.

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Linked article is from 2007. While this does not make it any more reprehensible... an event in the past cannot be undone by more destruction as a protest to something that does not even involve florida or you congregation.

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Ummm, yeah?

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Vindicarre wrote:
Colphax wrote:
Idiot "pastor" says he received a promise from an imam who is in no way associated with the Park51 project to move it away from Ground Zero.



It appears the "pastor" was talking to Iman.
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Lol, I noticed that this morning :)

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Talya wrote:
I want to protest this by burning Justin Bieber.


My name is Rynar, and I approve of this message.

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Vindi,

I almost missed the date initially. I just wanted to point that out, unless any thought (as I did) that these jihadists did this today, just to beat Jones' to the punch.

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Ahhh, I was just confused, as your statement:"an event in the past cannot be undone by more destruction as a protest to something that does not even involve florida or you congregation." pretty much mirrors my sarcastic" "Burning solves everything..."

I'm sure, however, that the protesters worldwide that are burning things, or plan to burn things in response to Jones' burning things, are kind of missing both our points.

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Talya wrote:
I want to protest this by burning Justin Bieber.


I started to say "What would that solve?" but upon closer inspection, it would solve a helluva lot of things. Nothing related to this, mind you, but a helluva lot of things.


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Just so you guys know, Westboro has announced taking up the cause since the original pastor bailed out like a pussy.

They'll be burning the American flag, too.

http://twitter.com/meganphelps


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Leave it to those cheerful Westboro peeps.

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Just so you guys know, Westboro has announced taking up the cause since the original pastor bailed out like a pussy.

They'll be burning the American flag, too.

http://twitter.com/meganphelps


This plan is so incredibly stupidly insanely retarded it just might actually work. The Jihadists will be paralyzed with sheer confusion!

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YAY! the WBC will find a way to unite Americans and Muslim Extremists.... they will declare a jihad on the WBC.

A win for everyone.

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darksiege wrote:
He may have the right to do so... But I think any **** who is willing to destroy KNOWLEDGE deserves to be put down.


Devil's advocate of sorts here...if he even roasts a few hundred of the things...how much knowledge is really destroyed?

Personally, I think the whole over-reaction is silly. I mean, as a Christian, if someone were to decide to burn a bunch of Bibles for some reason, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest...it doesn't affect me or God one bit.

Unless they were to try and take my Bible to burn it...cause that book is mine. Of course, if they'd pay me enough to replace it, I'd hand it over and tell 'em to have fun.

It's just an object, whose contents are more important than the physical presence of the object....and the contents are freely available.


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Coren,

I would feel the same way if they were burning Christian Bibles.

A book burning may start small. It may be 100 or 1000 burned today. But if his movement gains any momentum... tomorrow it could be 10,000 or 100,000.

This kind of escalation is what can cause a dark ages type of issue where valuable information ends up lost.

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I really don't think that's a worry. It's not the same situation as the Fahrenheit 451 scenario. Noone's trying to suppress knowledge, they're just trying to piss someone off.

I mean, I think the likelihood of all the Koran's disappearing are about the same as the likelihood of flag burning "catching on" to the point of all flags disappearing.


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WBC are heroes. They are going to sacrifice themselves to the cells in this nation.

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YAY! the WBC will find a way to unite Americans and Muslim Extremists.... they will declare a jihad on the WBC.

A win for everyone.

That depends entirely on where this war is conducted.

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Books are merely ink and paper. Words are merely symbolic representations of ideas. As long as those ideas are maintained in a format somewhere, knowledge is not destroyed.


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I'm sure what darksiege meant when he wrote:
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He may have the right to do so... But I think any **** who is willing to destroy KNOWLEDGE deserves to be put down.


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He may have the right to do so... But I think any **** who is willing to symbolically destroy KNOWLEDGE deserves to be put down.


Does that satisfy?

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let me get a bit more into how I feel about book burning...

A book is merely ink and paper that represents ideas in a (mostly) formatted method. This representation is knowledge.

To be willing to allow disgust, hatred, anger, etc. to aggrieve you to the point where destroying what is represented in those pages is abhorrent to me.

I, darksiege, am an opinionated and often anger driven creature. But for me to see something posted or stated by Khross (he has referred to himself as Dr before and he is a professor so I would assume he has been published) and disagree with it is all well and good.

But for me to be so pissed off at him that I would go out, search for his writings (his knowledge) and destroy as many copies of his writing as I can.... that is destroying the knowledge that he has made available to those who cannot learn directly from him.

I consider it just as detestable to destroy the works of Mark Twain, Anton LaVey, Allister Crowley, L Ron Hubbard, etc.

It is showing that your ignorance and asininity is in support of keeping the masses stupid as long as you get your way.

This is not the Inquisition. We are not in the Dark Ages. Humans claim to be the superior life form on this planet.. act like it or have the decency to bring yourselves to extinction.

*you as used in this rambling rant is not indicative of any one person, merely used as the general you.

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