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Ladas wrote:
isn't the whole thing essentially propaganda?


"the particular doctrines or principles propagated by an organization or movement."

Using that definition of propaganda, yes it is.


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This is going to seem like flaming, I'm sure, but in all seriousness, is there a version of the bible that wasn't created/written with intent not dissimilar from what these "authors" are attempting to accomplish?

That's not flaming, and if it were, there's no rules against flaming God or anyone else who doesn't post here.


Besides, flaming God is Satan's job.

He takes less kindly to vigilante moderation than our mods do :p

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Ladas wrote:
It was more a question about the political motives in the original stories, in their original languages.

Between co-opted events from other religions or myths and veiled political commentaries in others, isn't the whole thing essentially propaganda?


I suppose this depends. If men actually wrote the books of the Bible, then it'd be interesting as a piece of history, and pretty much worthless for anything else. If, however, God directed the writing so that we can learn about Him, then it becomes so much more.

There have been translators who genuinely wanted to have a translation that is as true to the original text as possible. There have also been people who translated the original texts in such a way that they said what the translators wanted them to say.

Speaking as a man, the Bible says some things I wish it did not. However, since I believe God directed the writing, I believe it is important (and a debt I owe to God) to submit my will to Him, to acknowledge myself as a subordinate, and God as King of kings and Lord of lords. Therefore, I acknowledge that God's way is higher than my way and that God knows better than I.


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Talya wrote:
That's not flaming, and if it were, there's no rules against flaming God or anyone else who doesn't post here.



Not true! According to Lex, God does indeed post here... :lol:

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Oh come on Lex, you have to admit that was funny.


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While I am not a religious person with a very skeptical outlook on organized religion in general, one thing I do admire about you Bery is strong consistency in statements about your belief.


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LadyKate wrote:
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That's not flaming, and if it were, there's no rules against flaming God or anyone else who doesn't post here.



Not true! According to Lex, God does indeed post here... :lol:

This post rules.

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LadyKate wrote:
Talya wrote:
That's not flaming, and if it were, there's no rules against flaming God or anyone else who doesn't post here.



Not true! According to Lex, God does indeed post here... :lol:


Buuuuuuuuuurn.

Also, I this might sound cliche, but I don't think it matters under what intention the translation or interpretation of any dogmatic literature is done. If it helps people live better lives, then I'm for it. However, such a perspective is at odds with devotion required in most faiths.

It also could be considered synonomous with the original post, in that it is used to rationalize "evil".

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Ladas wrote:
While I am not a religious person with a very skeptical outlook on organized religion in general, one thing I do admire about you Bery is strong consistency in statements about your belief.


You might be surprised at how much I look at organized Christianity with a skeptic's eye. I am convinced that many of the Christian denominations have fallen prey to the same errors that Christ condemned the Pharisees for: Substituting the traditions of men for the directives of God. Many are whited on the outside, but inside are full of dead men's bones and all manner of corruption. IMO, of course.


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That was my first thought as well. History repeats itself.

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Rafael wrote:
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Talya wrote:
That's not flaming, and if it were, there's no rules against flaming God or anyone else who doesn't post here.
Not true! According to Lex, God does indeed post here... :lol:
Buuuuuuuuuurn.
So... report LadyKate for flaming?

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Hehehehe.

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Flaming? :lol:

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