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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:51 pm 
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How will you save us all now, Mr. Krugman?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/dollar_loses_reserve_status_to_yen_hFyfwvpBW1YYLykSJwTTEL;jsessionid=65E301CF47ED50D15170F8D6530791C5

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Dollar loses reserve status to yen & euro
By PAUL THARP

Last Updated: 3:16 AM, October 13, 2009

Posted: 1:44 AM, October 13, 2009

Ben Bernanke's dollar crisis went into a wider mode yesterday as the greenback was shockingly upstaged by the euro and yen, both of which can lay claim to the world title as the currency favored by central banks as their reserve currency.

Over the last three months, banks put 63 percent of their new cash into euros and yen -- not the greenbacks -- a nearly complete reversal of the dollar's onetime dominance for reserves, according to Barclays Capital. The dollar's share of new cash in the central banks was down to 37 percent -- compared with two-thirds a decade ago.

Currently, dollars account for about 62 percent of the currency reserve at central banks -- the lowest on record, said the International Monetary Fund.

Bernanke could go down in economic history as the man who killed the greenback on the operating table.

After printing up trillions of new dollars and new bonds to stimulate the US economy, the Federal Reserve chief is now boxed into a corner battling two separate monsters that could devour the economy -- ravenous inflation on one hand, and a perilous recession on the other.

"He's in a crisis worse than the meltdown ever was," said Peter Schiff, president of Euro Pacific Capital. "I fear that he could be the Fed chairman who brought down the whole thing."

Investors and central banks are snubbing dollars because the greenback is kept too weak by zero interest rates and a flood of greenbacks in the global economy.

They grumble that they've loaned the US record amounts to cover its mounting debt, but are getting paid back by a currency that's worth 10 percent less in the past three months alone. In a decade, it's down nearly one-third.

Yesterday, the dollar had a mixed performance, falling slightly against the British pound to $1.5801 from $1.5846 Friday, but rising against the euro to $1.4779 from $1.4709 and against the yen to 89.85 yen from 89.78.

Economists believe the market rebellion against the dollar will spread until Bernanke starts raising interest rates from around zero to the high single digits, and pulls back the flood of currency spewed from US printing presses.

"That's a cure, but it's also going to stifle any US economic growth," said Schiff. "The economy is addicted to the cheap interest and liquidity."

Economists warn that a jump in rates will clobber stocks and cripple the already stalled housing market.

"Bernanke's other choice is to keep rates at zero, print even more money and sell more debt, but we'll see triple-digit inflation that could collapse the economy as we know it.

"The stimulus is what's toxic -- we're poisoning ourselves and the global economy with it."

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Here's what bothers me about Rynar...

Way back, he quit the Glade and sent me lots of emails about how the economy was going to crash.

I never responded and just thought he was being a crazy loonytoon.

And then the economy crashed and I lost thousands in my mutual fund...

(It bothered me in an anti-Lex way and not an anti-Rynar way.)

(so this isn't a flame, moderator guys)

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as the greenback was shockingly upstaged

... shockingly, I say! It's like no one on earth saw this coming!

You know, a big part of the reason that the Constitution was written in the first place was to prevent debtors in one state from paying back their creditors in another with wortless, inflated currency printed at the whims of their state government.

It is richly ironic that this is now our Federal government's modus operandi. Run up a huge debt, and then pay everyone back with worthless fiat currency. And to top it all off, the powers that be act all shocked and dismayed when our creditors finally decide that they're not taking our **** anymore. What did they think would happen?

*sigh* Aesop had it wrong. The greater calamity is not when you kill the goose that lays the golden eggs -- it's when you let it live.

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Schiff for Senate 2010!

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I am sooooo glad I got locked in at 5%.


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There was a duck tales episode that all of Congress needs to watch.

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They'd go watch it, but they're too busy swimming in their pools of dollars.

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I don't understand the sentiment about running up rates crushing equities. Where else will people put their money? In bonds?

Bonds are still a bad idea. Bonds right now are bad because of exactly what the article says: part of the bond is actually defaulted on in the insidious manner of inflated, devalued currency. But running up rates won't change the fundamental fact that the bonds still won't be able to be paid back. Now they'll just have to say "we can't fulfill our obligation". In fact, raising rates makes things worse (though it is the long term solution), because in the short run, it drives down tax revenues as it stifles the ability to recapitalize.

So from a domestic investor's perspective, bonds are a no-win situation: economic contraction means a proportional contraction in tax revenues, so bonds look Bearish. But if rates are raised to bring in that revenue, you pay those taxes anyway to pay back the obligation owed to you by the Treasury.

From an international standpoint, bonds appear to be grim too, because why would anyone want to believe that the Obama administration will raise revenues to pay back obligations. If they are smart, they know any additional revenues (riskily procured at the politically suicidal method of raising taxes) will probably go towards social programs, and not paying back debt obligations.

No, until the Government gets out of the way of the market and lets real entrepneurship flourish, instead of trying to stifle it in the name of "economic equality" (whatever the **** that means), it won't be able to issue bonds in a growing manner as it has. Which is a good thing. It disciplines the government, makes cheap money and handouts (bailouts) not a real option anymore so that disciplines the market which reduces malinvestment.

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Also, Congress needs to go read Tom Sawyer. The world is not going to white wash our fence any longer nor pay us for the pleasure of doing so.

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You just gave me a chuckle. I tried to picture Barbara Boxer reading.

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Audit the Fed!

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Since you said it:
http://www.auditthefed.com/

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Screeling wrote:
Audit the Fed!


This is likely not an audience that needs a great deal of instructing on these matters, but I would highly reccomend Dr. Paul's End the Fed to anyone seeking to educate themselves further on this issue.

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