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 Post subject: Re: Banned Books
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:16 am 
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It's still far better than anything by Hemingway. Damn, we had to read a lot of that crap.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:28 am 
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This thread makes me sad.

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Much like a dog is only about three meals away from being a wolf, apparently humans are only about three books away from being savages.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:05 am 
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In almost all cases, these banned books are simply a case of outraged parents wanting libraries to do parenting for them. Parent X finds out about book Y and doesn't want their kid reading it, which is fine and well enough... but instead of doing any actual parenting they just yell at the library to remove it. It may have a little to do with the deification of books or something in society too, especially 'literature', but this is only a half-formed thought from someone not quite fully awake yet... I am simply trying to figure out the difference between books and movies here.

There have been a handful of lawsuits over the years. It can be fairly depressing stuff.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:09 am 
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This thread makes me sad.

what makes you sad?


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This thread makes me sad.

what makes you sad?


If I were to hazzard a guess, several reasons:
- How many artistic works humans try to ban. (unlikely the reason, but worth being sad about)
- How many of us illiterate plebians have read so few classics on the list. (far more likely, I suppose)
- Several stated negative opinions of literary classics (also very likely)
- that hack of a british children's author having her derivative works at the top of the list?

I could think of other reasons.

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None of Khross' works being listed?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:18 pm 
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Harry Potter series? #1?

Who the **** would ban those?


At a Harry Potter themed Christmas display window a few years back, I overheard one mother tell another she would never let her kids read those books because it promotes witchcraft and sorcery.


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Harry Potter series? #1?

Who the **** would ban those?


At a Harry Potter themed Christmas display window a few years back, I overheard one mother tell another she would never let her kids read those books because it promotes witchcraft and sorcery.


Indeed. Satanic spiritism and superstition in our children's entertainment is a serious threat to them growing up to be good Christians. Besides, they might catch teh gay from Dumbledor.

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Harry Potter slipping from #1 on the banned books list is my current theory on why Rowling decided she always envisioned Dumbledor as gay.

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Harry Potter series? #1?

Who the **** would ban those?


At a Harry Potter themed Christmas display window a few years back, I overheard one mother tell another she would never let her kids read those books because it promotes witchcraft and sorcery.


Indeed. Satanic spiritism and superstition in our children's entertainment is a serious threat to them growing up to be good Christians. Besides, they might catch teh gay from Dumbledor.


Yeah, its far better to ban it than to learn about the real themes of friendship, courage, integrity, and overcoming bullying and douchebaggery.

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Yeah, its far better to ban it than to learn about the real themes of friendship, courage, integrity, and overcoming bullying and douchebaggery.


Of course! If they learn to courageously band together to overcome bullying and douchebaggery, we might never manage to convince them to properly love Jesus.

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Just tell everyone it is a christian allegory. That worked for LoTR and Narnia.

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The gay leaders gets struck down and tossed from the heights after indulging in a drinking binge involving an under age male?


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Just tell everyone it is a christian allegory. That worked for LoTR and Narnia.


Kind of ruined The Matrix.


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Just tell everyone it is a christian allegory. That worked for LoTR and Narnia.


Kind of ruined The Matrix.

But it isn't banned is it? I think we should have the authors of all these banned books go on the record and say they are Christian allegories/folk-tales and see if we can empty the list.

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But it isn't banned is it?

The Matrix is generally banned in schools, yes. Something about an 'R' rating or some such.

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Probably has to do with "glorification" of firearms. It does sort of glorify them, but in such a caricatured way that only an utter fool could think its seriously advocating pointless violence.

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I'm still sticking with the 'R' rating as the reason most schools tend not to play it. Most elementary schools don't show Schindler's List, either.

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I've never seen Schindler's List, but I hear it has full frontal for both genders. Probably not really allowed to show that to children. However, I believe I watched Glory in the 6th grade and if I recall correctly, it was pretty violent and had a lot of "bad words." I mean, they say nigger like it was an every day word or something.

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That's interesting. You know what makes me sad? ...

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I'm still sticking with the 'R' rating as the reason most schools tend not to play it. Most elementary schools don't show Schindler's List, either.

Is this list solely books that are banned from schools? I was under the impression that it went beyond that.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:12 am 
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We watched plenty of movies that had an 'R' rating in school. All of them were about books we had just finished for the most part, from what I can remember. I'd say say any R-rated movie that doesn't involve school curriculum would probably not be allowed in most schools though.

Off the top of my head:
Polanski's version of Macbeth (I believe this movie was funded by Playboy, if I remember correctly)
1984 (R-Rating)
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest


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