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Once again the Browns are haunted by their lack of a big play receiver and Seneca Wallace's in ability to throw a sideline pass that is less than 5 yards out of bounds.


I'm still amused by the fact that their running attack is being lead, rather well actually, by a 4th year fullback who has barely carried the ball before this year. Although its not really that suprising, seeing how well he did in college while running alongside McFadden and Jones at Arkansas.

More amusing (and concerning) to me is that Hillis is 2nd on the depth chart behind Harrison.

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The Seahawks are terrible today.

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Packers are not playing up to their potential. They had the Lions by the throat, and then let them up. Hopefully, this just means that they're gonna peak at just the right time later this year ...

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The NY Giants defense was scary good tonight. Oh, and Todd Collins is terribad.

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Browns looked downright competent today!

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Scobee owns the Colts.

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So the Bears just displayed, perhaps, the worst offensive performance I've ever witnessed on a football field. I've never seen an offensive line crumble so pathetically. Naturally, I'm extremely worried about our team, offensively. It really makes me wonder how we managed to do so well offensively throughout the first three weeks. We didn't do as well against Green Bay in week 3, but they also have a pretty good defense. Through two weeks, Cutler was leading the league in passer rating. Last night, he got sacked 9 times in one half, leaving with a concussion. Not only that, he did absolutely nothing offensively for the entire half.

It's so hard to determine if it's panic time or not. I know our potential, but that game just looked terrible. The only positive that comes out of a game like that is our defense. Julius Peppers looked like a beast, as usual. We held up defensively for most of the game, despite our offense was in negative numbers in the second quarter still.

Damn football and it's unpredictability!

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Yeah, your O line put on the gimp mask and let itself get dominated.

Chicago's not as good as their record. They beat Detroit with a flukey BS officiating thing, Dallas is *terrible*, and GB beat themselves with 18 penalties.

I think it finally caught up to them.

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Yeah, your O line put on the gimp mask and let itself get dominated.

Chicago's not as good as their record. They beat Detroit with a flukey BS officiating thing, Dallas is *terrible*, and GB beat themselves with 18 penalties.

I think it finally caught up to them.


I'm going to glom onto this and hope for the best for the rest of the season. Go Pack. :D

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Yeah, your O line put on the gimp mask and let itself get dominated.

Chicago's not as good as their record. They beat Detroit with a flukey BS officiating thing, Dallas is *terrible*, and GB beat themselves with 18 penalties.

I think it finally caught up to them.

I'll agree with the Detroit victory, but I'll also say that Detroit is much better than their 0-4 record as well. Dallas is terrible, but their D is still better than than Giants'. The same goes for GB. One thing about the whole "GB beat themselves" argument - Julius Peppers is the reason they had that many holding penalties. They couldn't stop him. He forced all of those false starts and holds. Julius Peppers is a monster. Also, looking to the GB game, Chicago's backup TE dropped a gimme pass from 1 yard out, with zero coverage. On top of that, they didn't put the football in the endzone at the end of the game to prevent GB from getting the ball with over a minute left. I'm not a man that generally uses "we coulda done this," but we easily could've been up another 10 points from what had, making it a 13 point win. I absolutely do not buy the penalty excuse for that win. That'd be like us Bears fans saying "we should have won because you generally don't allow 10 sacks in a football game. On a normal day, we should have won." We lost because the Giants defense was ripping our O-Line apart, not just because we screwed up. The GB penalties were a result of Julius Peppers' domination of that O-Line, not just GB being that terrible. Obviously they're not that terrible, so what made them so terrible that game? Peppers.

After all of that, I do agree that they are worse than their record; but, they aren't worse than their record because of the way they played in weeks 1-3. They truly played well and deserved their last two wins. They aren't as good as their record because they played way better than in weeks 1-3 than they normally on an average day. Their defense is strong again, but their offense outperformed their average day at the field for the first three weeks. Their main problem is their O-Line. We have the worst O-Line in the league, easily. I could've told you that before last night even. I'm sure we'll be talking about the Giants in a few weeks, after another loss where their defense gets lit up, how they only played good against Chicago because we have such a terrible O-Line.

After giving this more thought, and listening to other Bears fans, I feel that it's not worth completely panicking yet. Obviously last night is an anomaly. Even the worst team in the NFL isn't going to play a game that bad very often. The crazy thing though is that we were only down three points, until only two minutes left in the third quarter. How crazy is it that a team with only 29 yards, through three quarters, was only down 3-0? We're talking about a Bears offense that only had five first downs all game, yet the time of possession was still around 45/55. HOW? How can we keep time of possession that close when we only had about one first down per quarter, as well as going 0 for 13 on third down conversions? Our defense actually did very well, that's how. Despite starting with great field position almost every drive, New York still only went 3 for 12 on third downs. NY didn't score a TD until late in the third quarter, when the defense was finally getting tired. Chicago forced, and recovered, three fumbles. They also dropped at least two gimme int's that were floating in the air after being batted up. With the performance of this defense last night, literally ANY form of offense would've won this game for us last night. That's how good this defense is right now, especially now that we have Peppers.

If Jerry Angelo doesn't acquire offensive line help in the next two weeks, he's toast at the end of the year (Our GM), and so is Lovie. It's a shame, because I really don't think it's Lovie's fault. He can't help that the GM won't acquire help at the O-Line position.

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Orton > Cutler

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No, it probably is worth panicking.

I totally think Cutler went in at half and complained of "concussion" symptoms so he didn't have to go back out there.

And the Giants ran all over the Bears in the second half. Bradshaw was an absolute beast.

Your O-Line never showed up, and your run defense went home at the half.

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Cutler was asking to be let back into the game, so that's a pretty big bit of speculation on your part.

Bradshaw did run all over the Bears later in the second half, but we still forced a fumble on him at the 1.

Our defense had every right to go home at half. After every drive they stopped, they went on the sideline, watched their offense get sacked 2-3 times, then went back out. It was like that all game. Defenses do wear down after a while, *especially* with the run game.

Again, despite all of that, it was still a 7 point game until four minutes left in the game, with it being a 3 point lead for the majority of the game. If that doesn't say something about the Bears' defense, what does that say about the Giants' offense? We didn't get anywhere near 10 sacks, yet we held them to 3 points for pretty much three quarters.

Despite a historically bad offensive performance, we still have an offense that's capable of tossing 20+ points onto the board (even with a pathetic O-Line). If we were this bad and looking at 1-3, I'd panic. It's a term thrown around way too loosely in the NFL. First of all, we were supposed to be around 24th in the Power Rankings this year, so 3-1 is still just fine by me. Cutler is still a top 10 quarterback, and the Bears' defense is going to be around 10-15th (good enough to keep them in games).

One week from now, after we play Carolina (providing Cutler plays, which signs point to yes), people will forgive this game. With the Bears at 4-1, heading into week six at home versus Seattle, they'll start talking how they have a chance to make the playoffs again. We are going into the easiest part of our schedule. We have time to improve, which of course we need to do. Based on our next four games, I'd say panicking is a bit extreme. Our next four opponents have combined for only 4 wins through week 4. FOUR opponents, FOUR wins. Why on Earth would someone panic going into that 4 game stretch? Even the Lions would be getting excited for that part of the season. If we go through these next four weeks, and win anything less than three games, I will begin to panic. We are at week four right now.

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Your schedule's starting to look like a NCAA Div I schedule.

Its full of cupcakes. (And yes, I'm including the Seahawks in that.)

Your next 4 games:
@ Carolina (0-4)
Seahawks (2-2)
Redskins (2-2)
@ Buffalo (0-4)

I don't think really any of those teams will be > .500 at any time. (I thought maybe the Seahawks could, but after yesterday's absolutely dismal performance... not so much)

You've beaten the 0-4 Lions, the 1-2 Cowboys, and the 3-1 Packers. You don't play a real opponent again till the 18th of November when you go to Miami. Then the Pats and Jets in December. The Jan game @ Green Bay will prolly be a week 17 resting the starters game.

God the NFC sucks right now. :(

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Glad the Chargers finally played like they should've been all season.

Sad watching the 49ers' continued fall from grace.


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The 49ers?

I couldn't be happier that they're 0-4. Most. Overhyped. Team. Ever.

I'm still trying to figure the Cardinals out. SD went out and just dominated them yesterday.

Give me a little bit of hope that Maybe Seattle can pull a win out of the division after all...

And then get dominated in the WC game, first week of the playoffs.

But it would be nice to be in the playoffs after 9 wins in 2 seasons.

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Hard to say that the 49ers are the most overhyped team ever when they're still tied for #2 most SB wins plus the fact that they're the only undefeated SB team (while having more than 1 appearance). They're **** now, but to deny the fact that they're one of the best football franchises in the history of the sport is laughable.


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The only shock with the 49ers is how they've been steadily getting better over the past few years. Falling off to 0-4 so quick is a bit of a disappointment. Don't act like that team should be 0-4 right now. They barely lost to New Orleans and Atlanta. Both of those teams are above average teams. Sure, they laid an egg in week one, and then the hot KC team ran over them. I don't think 0-4 represents how good they are.

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"You are what your record says you are." Just popped into my head reading that. LOL


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Hard to say that the 49ers are the most overhyped team ever when they're still tied for #2 most SB wins plus the fact that they're the only undefeated SB team (while having more than 1 appearance). They're **** now, but to deny the fact that they're one of the best football franchises in the history of the sport is laughable.


I was talking about this year. Yeah, with Montana and Young, they were great, but that was 15 years ago.

This year, they were crowned in week 2 of the preseason as the best team in the NFC west, and I saw some people having them go on to the SB.

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Maybe those same people knew the NFC would be a pathetic conference this year? I don't know. I would've put 49ers in the middle of the pack, but certainly not at the very bottom with the Lions.

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The same goes for GB. One thing about the whole "GB beat themselves" argument - Julius Peppers is the reason they had that many holding penalties. They couldn't stop him. He forced all of those false starts and holds.


Yeah, good point. You'd think the Packers would be doing something to shore up their offensive line by now. It's been in freefall for two years, I think.

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The NFC just got a bit stronger, specifically the NFC North. Randy Moss is a Viking again. Maybe Farve will get his arm going again. I don't know. I honestly think he's just beginning to show the signs of aging. We'll see what happens. The Vikings will probably turn into a pretty strong team once they get Rice back, combined with Moss, even with Farve's fossil arm.

I'm a bit concerned for the Bear's chances of doing anything playoff worthy this year now. I believed we were a 10-6 team, which wasn't a huge stretch after starting 3-1, but that changes with Moss. We still have yet to even play the Vikings once. That means, on both occasions, we will be facing a Viking team with Randy Moss. Not to mention, we don't play them until later in the year, which means they could have better chemistry by then.

Not only does this change Chicago's season, it will also impact Green Bay's. Until today, I honestly thought Green Bay would dominate the Vikings this year. This could even the division out quite a bit, pushing the Lions down further than they probably should be.

As it currently stands, I still believe two 9 and 7 teams will make the NFC playoffs. I wouldn't even be shocked if an 8 and 8 team makes it in this year. With the strongest teams all starting pretty slow, and some of the worst teams starting well, I'm sure it's going to reverse course. It's unlikely we'll see more than one 12 or 13 win team, and that one team is most likely to be GB. The rest will probably hover around the 8-11 win range.

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That's just a WTF moment for the Pats.

I can't imagine that the fans would be at all happy with the trade.

In other trade-related news, the Seahawks picked up Marshawn Lunch and cut Julius Jones.

OMG. YAY. We have a 1-2 punch now with Forsett as the speedy back and Lynch as the boomer.

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The Browns just traded with the Vikings for a DE who has 5 sacks in 4 years in exchange for an undisclosed pick in the 2012 draft. Very curious.

Oh well with Delhomme back at QB maybe Massaquoi will actually have some value as a receiver again.

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