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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:55 am 
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I got nothing, really. But if I must talk about something, I'll say that I find it funny that the "right" is accused of being paid by Big Pharma and Big Insurance. Yet it's been those in favor of the current health care bill that are all showing up with the same sign. Our congresswoman had a "townhall" meeting at a local high school and pro-health care bill people showed up with signs like this:

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There was also a box for them to put their signs in when it was over so they could be reused at the next event/protest.

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You should have titled this "Frist psot!", n00b.

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Too bad you didn't get any pictures of the detractors and their homemade signs.

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I was hoping someone would start a conversation about this video that Obama is supposedly going to be showing to all of our children next week.

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Well, there's this article on that:

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13249171? ... id=5883011

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Parents upset over 'leftist propaganda' video

Regine Gordon doesn't want her 6-year-old son to hear from President Obama next week.

Gordon, of Tampa, Fla., is among a growing number of parents across the country who are troubled by the president's plan to address elementary, middle and high school students in an online speech Tuesday.

"It's a form of indoctrination, and I think, really, it's indicative of the culture that the Obama administration is trying to create," Gordon told FOXNews.com on Thursday. "It's very socialistic."

After writing letters to her congressman and school officials, Gordon said her son, David, will be allowed to participate in an alternative activity at Gorrie Elementary School during Obama's address, which comes on the first day of school for many children.

"I'm waiting to hear from his teacher, but I have told them to go ahead and I'd like [David] to go do something else," Gordon said. "It's kind of like going through the children to get to their parents. Children are very vulnerable and excited. I mean, this is the president. I think it's an underhanded tactic and indicative of the way things are being done."

But some parents won't be allowed to "opt-out" their kids everywhere. At least one school district, Tempe Elementary School District No. 3 in Arizona, is not permitting parents to pull their children out of class during Obama's speech.

"I have directed principals to have students and teachers view the president's message on Tuesday," Superintendent of Schools Dr. Arthur Tate Jr. said in a statement Thursday. "In some cases, where technology will not permit access to the White House Web site, DVDs will be provided to classes on subsequent days. I am not permitting parents to opt out students from viewing the president's message, since this is a purely educational event."

The White House said Wednesday that the president's address is intended to be an inspirational, pro-education message to all students at the beginning of the school year. But critics objected to the language of one of the lesson plans, for students in pre-kindergarten through grade 6, which suggested that students "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president." Another assignment for students after hearing the speech was to discuss what "the president wants us to do."

The suggestion about writing letters has since been changed to: "Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals. These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals."

White House spokesman Tommy Vietor said the changes to the language are intended to make the lesson plans clearer. He added that the speech the president's speech will not be a policy speech, but is intended to encourage kids to work hard and commit to school.

But that hasn't assuaged concerns of Michelle Moore of St. Louis, who says she's considering keeping her two daughters out of the classroom at Lindberg High School when Obama begins to speak.

"I have to sign permission slips for my kids to watch R-rated movies in school," Moore said, explaining that she felt parents were being blindsided by the president's address. "It was simply presented, 'Hey, we're going to do this, this is when it's going to air and you're going to show it to your kids.'"

Moore suggested that the speech be issued as a DVD to students so they can view it with their parents at home, adding that the first day of classes for many students will be a harried affair.

"That's their first day," she said. "I would think they have plenty of other things to do."

The idea of having Obama speak directly to children without so much as a permission slip being sent home just "makes you feel a little funny," said Beth Milledge of Winterset, Iowa. She said she plans on going to school with her 8-year-old son to watch the address with him.

"I want to know how it's being presented," she said. "I'm all for my child having respect for the president, but why wouldn't he show us the speech first and then go from there?"

Dana Loesch, spokeswoman for the Nationwide Tea Party Coalition, has started a campaign to ask schools to provide an alternative to the speech for parents who do not wish their children to experience a presidential address in school. Loesch has urged parents to contact schools directly to find out if the "partisan presentation" will air in their child's classroom.

"It went straight from the Department of Education right to the principals," Loesch told FOX News. "There's a lot of parents who have spoken to me [and] they've talked to their principals, and it kind of 'weirded' them out a little because this is also the first that protocol has been skipped."

Several school districts contacted by FOXNews.com, including those in Milwaukee and St. Louis, said individual teachers will decide whether to air the address in their classrooms.

"We're allowing teachers to decide," an Austin, Texas, school official told FOXNews.com. "But most of the kids will be at lunch. It's not going to be a big issue here."

In Austin, school district officials say a speech by any sitting president is worthy of "Americans' time, attention and consideration," according to a statement by the Austin Independent School District (AISD) to FOXNews.com. Teachers who believe the address will be beneficial to their students will allow viewing in the classroom.

"It is AISD's expectation that viewing of this Web address will vary by campus and by classroom," the statement continued. "Parents will be advised by their campus principals to alert the school if they have a specific desire to have their child included in, or removed from, the viewing of the president's remarks."

Parents in Milwaukee will have the option to remove their children by "simply informing the school of their preference," spokeswoman Roseann St. Aubin said.

Virginia Department of Education spokesman Charles Pyle told the Associated Press that a number of school divisions asked the agency for guidance this week after parents concerned with the address contacted local officials.

The department says it's up to districts to determine whether a school or class views the address, and teachers who choose to incorporate the president's speech into their lessons are also free to develop their own classroom activities, the Associated Press reports.

Other districts, including those in New York City and Boston, won't even have classes that day. Officials at the Philadelphia School District declined comment.

National Parent Teacher Association President Chuck Saylors told FOXNews.com the presidential speech is something that should have happened years ago.

"Regardless of who is in the White House, when the president of the United States wants to give the students a beginning-of-the-year, do-your-best type of presentation, it should be supported," he said. "[But] if parents want their children to opt-out, they're certainly in their rights to do that."

Several statewide parent teacher associations, including those in Georgia, Virginia, Tennessee and others, did not respond to requests for comment on how their members are advising teachers how to present the presidential address in class.

Gainell Rogers, president-elect of the Utah Parent Teacher Association, said she has "confidence in the decisions" of local school officials.

"We believe that decisions in the best interest of students are most effective when made at the local level," Rogers told FOXNews.com. "Each local school district will decide what is best for their students and patrons and those decisions will reflect input from parents."

I don't understand how a superintendent can not let parents opt out.

I can only imagine the backlash if this had been pulled under President Bush.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:15 pm 
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The White House said Wednesday that the president's address is intended to be an inspirational, pro-education message to all students at the beginning of the school year. But critics objected to the language of one of the lesson plans, for students in pre-kindergarten through grade 6, which suggested that students "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president." Another assignment for students after hearing the speech was to discuss what "the president wants us to do."


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Screeling wrote:

I can only imagine the backlash if this had been pulled under President Bush.



I read on Newsbusters today that back in...91? When Bush the elder was president, he gave a speech at a high school(it was just at this high school mind you, not something nationwide). The Dems ripped him a new one for doing it.

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Did you say Frist?

A few years ago, when Senator Thurmond retired, a bunch of the senators on Capitol hill decided to throw him a going away party. So, plans were made to have a fancy party with great entertainment and to top it all off, a 7 course banquet with each dish from a different region in the United States. In a rare display of bipartisanship, Senators Frist and Reid were in charge of the festivities, and they were both well aware of Senator Thurmond's likes, and dislikes. Furthermore, they were both well aware of Sen. Thurmond's violent shellfish allergy. He was in fact, so allergic, that he flew into a fiolent rage whenever someone mistakenly served him shellfish, claiming that they were out to assassinate him (after all, the man was almost a hundred years old...)
Unfortunately, being a very busy man, Senator reid left the task of planning the menu to the Deputy Undersecretary to the Vice Assistant for Lunch Affairs' intern. This harried individual was trying to juggle 43 different tasks and now had the honor of planning a 7 course meal for this going away party.

So, the night of the party rolls around, and for several hours, the Senators and their guests are treated to Senator Thurmond's favorite things. A light jazz quartet played while speeches and roasts exalting senator Thurmons were given. Distinguished visitor after distinguished visitor rose and spoke about the Senator's illustrious career. After several hours of speeches, it was finally time for dinner.

The first course came out, prepared by a renowned pastry chef from New Orleans. Crepes, light as a feather, topped with freshly picked strawberries and drizzled with a light chocolate glaze. The guests received this warmly, and were very pleased with the dish. The jazz quartet played a selection from Miles Davis while they ate, and soon, it was time for the second course. Cooked by a skilled barbecue chef, hailing from Texas, this course was a selection of meats from the wilds of America. Tender roasted venison, sliced thin with a light gravy. Baked wild pheasant with mashed potatoes. Smoked Bison filet, tender and juicy. Even a selection of rarer meats, cooked specially for this event by congressional order. Grilled Puma, deep fried spotted owl, and braised polar bear. Everyone was delighted at the succulent selection of meats, and reveled in the debauchery offered by this daring chef.

After some more light jazz, the third course came out. This was a selection of cheeses from Wisconsin. Handcrafted Colby, Brie, tangy cheddar, buffalo mozzarella, fresh cheese curds, and smooth finishing Monterey Jack. This dish went quite well with the meats from the previous course as many were still working to finish off those delicacies. After still more light jazz, it was time for the soup course. A chef from New england had been hand picked by the intern as an honor to Senator Kennedy to represent the Northeastern US. As soon as the carts were wheeled by Sens. Reid and Frist, they knew there was trouble. As the waiters handed out the entree, Reid and Frist were stunned to see a bowl of creamy white chowder, big chunks of clam and a whole clamshell poking up out of the chowder. They could only wach in horror as the waiters made their way up to the head table, where the guest of honor was sitting. A hush began to fall over the room as each senior senator realized the colossal faux-pas that was about to be made. The tension mounted as a bowl was set in front of Senator Thurmond...

A junior senator asked Senator Reid what all the fuss was about, just what was going on. Senator Reid replied... That, my friend, as he pointed at the bowl of chowder...

That, is the clam before the Strom.

Senator Thurmond didn't have the chowder, its a good thing too or else...

He would have needed Frist aid...

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I demand moderators be appointed so that posts and posters as offensive as the immediately preceding may be dealt with appropriately. If it is left unchecked, it may devolve into that most heinous of human endeavors.






The punfest.

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If anything he should be banned for changing a name he has had for what, ten years now?

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Aww, leave the poor Müesli alone.

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Screeling wrote:

I can only imagine the backlash if this had been pulled under President Bush.


There wasn't any, despite his significantly more political message. Which shouldn't be surprising to a group of people that protested the same tax brackets that bush had as tyrannical under Obama. Hmmm, wonder what's different about the two men that might cause someone to hold them to such staggeringly different standards...

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You're like SNL's "Church Lady", only it's racism instead of Satan. You know that, right?

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Monte wrote:
Screeling wrote:

I can only imagine the backlash if this had been pulled under President Bush.


There wasn't any...


House Democrats criticized President Bush yesterday for using Education Department funds to produce and broadcast a speech that he made Tuesday at a Northwest Washington junior high school.

The Democratic critics accused Bush of turning government money for education to his own political use, namely, an ongoing effort to inoculate himself against their charges of inattention to domestic issues. The speech at Alice Deal Junior High School, broadcast live on radio and television, urged students to study hard, avoid drugs and turn in troublemakers.

“The Department of Education should not be producing paid political advertising for the president, it should be helping us to produce smarter students,” House Majority Leader Richard A. Gephardt (D-Mo.) said. “And the president should be doing more about education than saying, ‘Lights, camera, action.’ ”

Two House committees demanded that the department explain the use of its funds for the speech, an explanation that Deputy Secretary David T. Kearns provided late in the day in a letter to Rep. William D. Ford (D-Mich.), chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee. Education Secretary Lamar Alexander was out of town. [...]

Rep. Patricia Schroeder (D-Colo.), chairwoman of the Select Committee on Children, Youth and Families, said it was outrageous for the White House to “start using precious dollars for campaigns” when “we are struggling for every silly dime we can get” for education programs.

Rep. Martin Frost (D-Tex.) said that if Bush feels obliged to use government funds to hire outside consultants “to make him look good,” then he should fire some of the public relations experts on the White House payroll. “Then the president might be more sympathetic to unemployment benefits,” Frost said, referring to Bush’s threat to veto legislation to extend benefits.




Democrats did not stop with words. Rep. William Ford, then chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee, ordered the General Accounting Office to investigate the cost and legality of Bush's appearance. On October 17, 1991, Ford summoned then-Education Secretary Lamar Alexander and other top Bush administration officials to testify at a hearing devoted to the speech.


Nah, no backlash. Congressional hearings, GAO investigations...no backlash at all.

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