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 Post subject: Michele Bachmann
PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:01 pm 
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I stumbled across this through a friend and recalled that some here had claimed that Bachmann seemed fairly centrist and normal for a politician.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... ted-works/

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The Truth-O-Meter report card on Michele Bachmann
By Louis Jacobson
Published on Tuesday, September 21st, 2010 at 11:28 a.m.

About a year ago, the New York Times published an article about our ratings on Rep. Michele Bachmann, a Republican from Minnesota who had never earned anything higher than a False.

Since then, many PolitiFact readers -- particularly in Minnesota -- have kept tabs on our Bachmann ratings. With the publication of our newest fact-check on Bachmann, we thought it would be a good time to update our report card.

Bachmann has scored five Pants on Fire ratings, plus six False ratings. After 11 encounters with the Truth-O-Meter, Bachmann continues to hold the rare distinction of an all-False/Pants on Fire record.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:12 pm 
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And that's not normal for a politician?

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 Post subject: Re: Michele Bachmann
PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:13 pm 
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Bachmann has scored five Pants on Fire ratings, plus six False ratings. After 11 encounters with the Truth-O-Meter, Bachmann continues to hold the rare distinction of an all-False/Pants on Fire record.


No, it's not normal.


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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
And that's not normal for a politician?

Looks pretty normal to me.

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If only I held Politifact as credible, given that Bachmann has made statements I know to be 100% true.

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DFK! wrote:
If only I held Politifact as credible, given that Bachmann has made statements I know to be 100% true.


I'm sure she has said some things that are true. Politifact, or any similar organization, can't check absolutely everything.

Fact remains that she is either woefully ignorant, misinformed or a liar. None of which in my mind make her fit for office.


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Or they simply pick what they know are lies to portray her as such.

More than one options leads to their sort of findings.

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I just looked up the 5 statements Politifact has attributed to her.

Interestingly, it seems that all those are not nearly as full as **** as they're claiming, and some of them are as bad as trying to say Obama really believes there are 57 states.

Do you think Obama believes there are only 57 states? Or do you think some people are just shitty at hyperbole?



Furthermore, what prevents this website from selection bias?

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 Post subject: Re: Michele Bachmann
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Weird ...

I wonder if we were to fact-check Politifact on this matter if we'd discover something ...

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... ers-comme/

This story says Bachmann distorts Geitner's comment, but doesn't adequately explain what happens if the U.S. Dollar ceases to be China's reserve currency. Do you know what happens if China switches to the Euro, Aizle? Politifact consciously avoids discussing that and side steps the fact that the U.S. Dollar was the de facto international currency for much of the last 40 years. Now, Bachmann's not crazy or ultra-right, because this issue is so far over the heads of the St. Petersburg Times that any reporting on the subject is disingenuous.

I can, however, tell you one thing: if Geitner honestly believes letting China dump the dollar as their reserve currency is a good idea; we're ****.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... roke-our-/

Really? This one is like cherrypicking the most retarded thing Dan Quayle ever said as proof Republicans are retarded ... oh, wait ... or George W. Bush or ...

You know, it's pretty funny that an obvious bias against the Republican party has emerged already in two pieces from a site ostensibly concerned with "facts" in politics.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... on-federa/

Except, ACORN received an undisclosed amount of grant money for advertising census efforts, as did some 25,000 other groups. Politifact takes special care to not even address the matter here. More to the fact, they keep trying to assert that the Bachmann stated ACORN was using/could use Federal funds to perpetrate voter fraud, when she simply said that Federal money could end up in their hands. So, I'm trying to figure out how this is completely and utterly balderdash, when they were paid with Federal dollars for services rendered (advertising Census issues). So, her potentiality is somehow false when the facts demonstrate they received some amount of Federal funding. And Politifact on the other hand is somehow credible for asserting something she didn't say?

That's 3 strikes in 3 looks. This doesn't look promising for Politifact, Aizle.

You don't like Bachmann. That's cool. I'm not a big fan either, but she's not as extreme as you'd like to believe.

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