The Glade 4.0

He's unfunny. But my point was Assange looks like him. And also the queer eye guy.

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“Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general”. - Mark Rippetoe

In a broad sense, is better for the global economy if countries have an accurate assessment of what the U.S. is up to, including espionage. Government transparency is always good.

Free white male property owning colonists.

And, I'd still argue that you're wrong even with that, but statistically, you're absolutely wrong.

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In time, this too shall pass.

To extend your logic vis a vis governments, clearly because it allows people online to be tyrants.

After all, so long as nobody knows your name and address, you can't be arrested for, as an example, calling for politicians to be shot from time to time to keep the rest honest.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Nobody will be arrested for this except in places where it was always like this, and even there it's lessening. The world is increasingly democratizing due to the decentralization of information technology, and governments can't keep up.

Hence the joys of being a forum moderator.

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It will be so ridiculous if they enact this bill just so they can get one man who's not even American in jail.

Article I, Section 9

They can't pass a law in order to put someone in jail. He would have to do it again after the bill is passed.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

Which isn't illegal. Especially when one is simply quoting Thomas Jefferson. :p

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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No you're not. In fact, your espoused position in that regard is incredibly stupid.



This is just total nonsense. It's nothing but a perscription for mob rule which is at least as bad as tyrannical government.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

It's amazing how quickly americans disagree when you agree with the principles their founding fathers started their revolution on...

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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I'm just confused by the "little bit of anarchy" concept. Anarchy is one of those all or nothing conditions. If it isn't full out, it isn't anarchy, it is something else.

Definition of ANARCHY
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a : absence of government
b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority
c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government
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a : absence or denial of any authority or established order
b : absence of order : disorder <not manicured plots but a wild anarchy of nature — Israel Shenker>

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

a weakening and shrinking of government, a removal of government from areas it currently claims jurisdiction but doesn't belong (hence, an absence of government), and some good old fashioned chaos.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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It's all fun and games, right up to the point the fighting's going on in your front yard.

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In time, this too shall pass.

Fighting shouldn't be going on there. Government shouldn't be there, unless they have a sudden urge to shovel the snow out of my driveway.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
█ ♣ █

Chaos, by definition, means you can't predict where the fighting's gunna be, and anarchy means there's definitely gunna be fighting, and not by the government. It'll be your neighborhood warlord against the one the next block over.

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In time, this too shall pass.

None of what you stated is any such principle. It may bear some resemblance to what Jefferson had to say in some of his wilder moments, but America was not founded on any principle of shooting people on a whim.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

That's great. Without government, good luck getting the fighting out of your front yard. You go right on out there and tell them it "shouldn't be there." I'm sure anyone having a gun battle over some minor annoyance at the government will have no compunctions over shooting you and taking your front yard while he's at it.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Government has never been on my front yard -- and yet strangely, nobody has ever been shot there.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
█ ♣ █

No, what jefferson said in his "wilder moments" is the only reason America even exists. Jefferson's "Wilder moments" are the very core of freedom.


Neither have I advocated such.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
█ ♣ █

chaos and anarchy are on vacation

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In time, this too shall pass.

Is your mail delivered?
Was your home built without permits?
Is your water metered?
Your power, is it enterprise or government?
You have never had any reason to have the police or the fire department at your door? (If no, consider yourself lucky, they almost never show up with good news.)
Do you have a road in front of your front yard? Alongside your house?
Do you pay property taxes? Has your house been appraised and has that appraisal become part of a government record?

Are any of these government functions?

I think you are either in denial or just plain mistaken about the government never having been in your front yard Talya. They sure have visited me on occasion.

Of course, to my knowledge no one has ever been shot here either. One fellow almost was, but he surrendered quickly when he saw my neighbor's gun.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

Thomas Jefferson after Shay's Rebellion "A little revolution, now and then, is a good thing."

Thomas Jefferson Letter to William Smith 1787: "
"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure." "

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

To everyone responding to Taly...

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Right. I forgot that the following is quoting TJ.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades