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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:39 pm 
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Rynar wrote:
The people you choose to associate with isn't included in what a lifestyle is? Bad argument is bad.


Smoking is a personal action. Employment involves other people. It's inherently different. Furthermore it's bad if people are denied opportunities because someone is prejudiced.


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Lex Luthor wrote:
Rynar wrote:
The people you choose to associate with isn't included in what a lifestyle is? Bad argument is bad.


Smoking is a personal action. Employment involves other people. It's inherently different. Furthermore it's bad if people are denied opportunities because someone is prejudiced.


Hireing someone is a personal action. So you shouldn't have any say in the people you surround yourself with, and that has no impact on what your lifestyle is? Again, bad argument is bad.

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Rynar wrote:
Lex Luthor wrote:
Rynar wrote:
The people you choose to associate with isn't included in what a lifestyle is? Bad argument is bad.


Smoking is a personal action. Employment involves other people. It's inherently different. Furthermore it's bad if people are denied opportunities because someone is prejudiced.


Hireing someone is a personal action. So you shouldn't have any say in the people you surround yourself with, and that has no impact on what your lifestyle is? Again, bad argument is bad.


I actually don't care about these semantics. I just think it's better if people are allowed to smoke and also they don't get discriminated against. That's my opinion and if I ran things that's how it'd go. Also redundant statement is redundant.


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Lex Luthor wrote:
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Lex Luthor wrote:
Smoking is a personal action. Employment involves other people. It's inherently different. Furthermore it's bad if people are denied opportunities because someone is prejudiced.


Hireing someone is a personal action. So you shouldn't have any say in the people you surround yourself with, and that has no impact on what your lifestyle is? Again, bad argument is bad.


I actually don't care about these semantics. I just think it's better if people are allowed to smoke and also they don't get discriminated against. That's my opinion and if I ran things that's how it'd go. Also redundant statement is redundant.



No, what you don't care about is logical consistancy, and what you do care about is being a spoiled child stamping your feet. You want me to be forced to associate with you, restricting my freedoms and affecting my lifestyle so that you can be insulated from the concequences of making poor decisions, which happens to incude a change in your lifestyle which you freely chose when you decided to smoke knowing that I would choose not to associate with you if you did.

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Fortunatly this is one of the shorter threads for Lex to walk back his statements of fact.

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So what you're saying Rynar is that you agree not hiring based on smoking is discrimination, but you're okay with discrimination when it involves business' hiring?

I'm actually okay with that hehe. :mrgreen:


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