The Glade 4.0

See, this is what supporting 4e has wrought.
http://www.wizards.com/WPN/Sales/Articl ... ds_shadows

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Lol.

On the other hand, I could see this as being kind of fun, depending on the sorts of cards they have. Glad it's a supplement, though.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

I guess they have to fight pokemon somehow.

disgusting.

Their flagship product is doing fairly well on that front.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

This isn't the first instance of this type of product...the earliest one I recall offhand was made by Paizo for Pathfinder.

Indeed. Which, I might add, is a 3.5-based product. Well, SRD-derived product.

Point is, 4e resisted this longer!

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

http://www.amazon.com/Players-Handbook-Fighter-Power-Accessory/dp/0786952237

Did it, really?

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

I haven't been impressed by Pathfinder either. That having been said, investigating the earlier card offerings indicates that the WotC and Paizo stuff were merely record-keeping aids. I find them ridiculous, but not all that offensive. These from WotC are intended to influence gameplay. Apparently the game mechanics of 4e are such a failure, or the players and DMs are so inept and unimaginative, that this tragic further bastardization of Dungeons and Dragons was warranted.

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Hell even TSR had simple record keeping cards:

Priest Spell Cards
Wizard Spell Cards
Psionic Power Cards

Hell I even made a set of 3x5 index cards that had every weapon/armor or misc equipment item and its stats from the 2e PHB.

I would even make some of those cards for my magic items.

It was easier to keep a set handy for the things I need as opposed to flipping through books or memorizing that crap.

But these are ridiculous. Again I would like to say Down with 4E. Gary Gygax did not die, he escaped the travesty that WoTC is turning his game into.

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

I thought the power cards were a pretty good idea. These, which turn your encounters into CCG matches, not so much.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

As did I. I just used my example to expand upon what Shuyung stated right above me.

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

The cards I referred to by Paizo were plot twist cards meant to be used to change up gameplay.

My DM has been tempted to switch from standard 3.5 to Pathfinder. His lone reason for this, Druids. We have a druid in our group and he is pretty much over powered when held up to the rest of the group. Pathfinder changed this.

Other than that, I don't want to switch.

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Raell Kromwell

Ah, I see them. Still ridiculous, but extremely limited in distribution and utility. Mechanically, they're not much different than a potion. From a storytelling perspective, they have something to offer the less imaginative DMs and players. Plus which, I notice the plot twists have a number of potentially-detrimental-to-PCs options.

And, although the rules card for the Plot Twist cards states that a player can choose to use either the mechanical or storytelling piece of the card, it says nothing as to whether the DM can or can't implement a storytelling option in order for the player to receive the mechanical benefit.

Meanwhile, the WotC fortune card offering, while stating that

ignores that half of that should be bad.

And further, they are not limited in distribution. They indeed turn the RPG into a CCG.

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Well I have pretty much no reason to use the cards, I can't bring myself to nerdrage over 'em either. It's just kind of a re-emergence of a concept that's been used in RPGs in the past to add randomness.

Just like everything else with D&D, you're encouraged to use what you like and not use what you don't, so I don't see the problem.

So what are you going to do when one of your players brings in a deck?

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Won't happen. They already know not to.

Good luck with that.

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No luck needed. That's what communication is for.

Tell them we are going back to 3.5...

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Raell Kromwell

dude... why not just really get fun: player brings in a deck and you dust off these F**kers....

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

They'd get that confused with this product that came out in September.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

Not by a long shot. Adventure card have been around for a while.

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

*grumble grumble*

Sadly Coro... I know it would.

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut