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Talya
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Yes, it would. If you have a medical license, and perform the abortion according to established guidelines for late-term abortions, it's the crime of "providing an abortion after 24 weeks," IE not murder. If you don't have a license or don't adhere to the guidelines, it's murder. The first crime is the one they even charged his female assistant with. Of course, even if he had a license he's still be going away for life for all the other hygiene and practical issues, (a patient died in his office, remember) but the abortions would not be murder.


I think part of the issue here, is if he'd adhered to established guidelines for late-term abortions, many or most of these so-called "abortions" would never have been performed at all. He took cases other clinic were rejecting, because in most places you don't abort after a certain point in the pregnancy unless there is a clear threat to the mother's health, and have independant unaffilliated doctors signing off on it with you.

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Does this mean you can threaten your kids with an abortion too? "I brought you into this world, I can take you out of it (literally)" takes on a whole new meaning.

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He was not performing "abortions" he was literally murdering 7 to 9 month old (in utero) babies ! There is a very huge difference between a lump of cells and a viable human baby!! These were viable human babies able to live perfectly well outside the womb...therefore murder!!

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Jasmy wrote:
He was not performing "abortions" he was literally murdering 7 to 9 month old (in utero) babies ! There is a very huge difference between a lump of cells and a viable human baby!! These were viable human babies able to live perfectly well outside the womb...therefore murder!!


Indeed. And in fact, these babies WERE living perfectly well outside the womb for several seconds prior to their gruesome demise.

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Does this mean you can threaten your kids with an abortion too? "I brought you into this world, I can take you out of it (literally)" takes on a whole new meaning.


The bible has said you can for at least the last 3000-3500 years.
Deuteronomy 21:18-21

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Wwen wrote:
Does this mean you can threaten your kids with an abortion too? "I brought you into this world, I can take you out of it (literally)" takes on a whole new meaning.


Personally I'd follow it with, "And when I have another child, I will tell the new one what an idiot the old one was." :neko:
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One minute one way or the other is the difference between legal and 10 years mandatory minimum for statutory, what's your point? You have to draw the line somewhere.


Well, actually you don't. That's what makes it interesting.

Edit: Blargh. Quote got eaten somehow or another.

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Sure you do. You don't have to put it at the same age, but even if you have a grace period there's still a line at some point where it becomes rape when you cross it.
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