The Glade 4.0

Wow, I love how a position has been attributed to me based on a single question. I asked Aizle if he'd ever looked at the demographic data for abortions. I commented that said data is disturbing. I said nothing about genocide or racism or ethnic cleansing or anything else. I simply mentioned that the data is disturbing and left it at that.

You really need to not assume what someone thinks or their position on things, TheRiov. You don't know us well enough to anticipate our arguments.

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I KNEW you were going to say that...

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In time, this too shall pass.

Go herniate your brain or something, Camel ...

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This was one of the more disturbing and controversial positions of the book back when it came out. Bill Bennett got into some hot water for his comments about it.

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“Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general”. - Mark Rippetoe

While your name was mentioned in the first statement, my post was a blanket response to several of the arguments posted, including Rynar's mention of genocide. But your statement, made in reponse to Aizle's reaction to Rynar, would tend to indicate your own support of his assertion that abortion is being used as a method of genocide.

TheRiov:

I have demonstrated that more than 23 million african-Americans have been systematically encouraged to kill themselves.

I have provided source material, which if researched, would have led you to KKK materials referencing a strong support for Planned Parenthood both ideologically and financially.

I have provided the current standard definition of genocide.

I have presented to you the intent of the founding of PP.

I have shown our own government's recent funding of inner city abortions as a stimulus measure.

I believe it is your turn to present a counter argument based on more than your own feelings unless you wish to conceed.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

I guess then it is only "attempted" genocide because their population keeps increasing.

For example if I'm a skinhead and I hang one black person and want to hang every single one, but I first go to jail, I did not commit genocide.

Where in the definition of genocide does this come into play at all? Stop substituting your own feelings for the actual meanings of words.

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It's common sense based on my own life experiences and observation of history and language.

Then you're an idiot for not taking the actual definitions of words into account when defining them for yourself.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

You're an idiot to sensationalize and butcher the English language to support your political opinions.

I'll just provide the working definition again, bolding mine:

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

You've demonstrated no such thing.

Meaningless factoid. Just because a group we dont like supports a particular cause, doesn't make the cause anymore wrong or right.


Genocide still requires intent. No intent exists.

Sanger advocated reproductive rights for ALL women, not simply those of color. Again, even if she did, it does not constitute a conspiracy to commit genocide on one entire side. If a member of Westboro feeds a homeless person, it hardly means that feeding the homeless is in support of WBC's policies. Even if a member of WBC founded United Way, it wouldn't mean the organization was guilty of supporting WBC. You cannot stain an entire organization just because we dont like some of the beliefs of the founder. Were we to do that, we'd have to stain the US overall. How many founders kept slaves?



Funding planned parenthood does not equal funding abortions. Beyond that where is the money going compared to unwanted pregnancy rates? You can't just say "well those are in black neighborhoods, ergo its targeted at blacks."


And I've refuted every argument you've made.

I didn't even associate this with skin color until Lex mentioned it. It seems a bit of a ... stretch, to say the least. LK's initial post casts abortion in a rather positive light, I would think. Discouraging reproduction among the lowest on the socioeconomic scale is a good thing, and has nothing to do with race. If you cannot afford to raise children, it is irresponsible to have them.

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No, you've simply said, "No, I don't feel that is true." when presented with sources, definitions, and data you don't like. You haven't refuted anything at all.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

Women who get abortions do it willingly and are not under duress from any authority. For example, it isn't considered stealing if my "victim" makes an appointment with me to give me money with no other conditions. Furthermore the women don't intend to wipe out their ethnic group.

This has been addressed already. Stop shifting the goal posts.

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I guess then it can also be oppression if a woman can't modify what's in her body.

Irrelevant and fallacious.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

Every action the government makes will affect is population in a heterogenous fashion. Suggesting that legalization of abortion is an intentional method of reducing the populations of poor or blacks is no more justified than suggesting meat subsidies are an intentional way to reduce fast food prices to keep poor people fat.

Affirmative Action
DOMA
Don't Ask Don't Tell

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

Well, yes, there are policies that intentionally target specific groups. That said, I don't think the topic at hand qualifies.

Yeah, I don't think it's a Governmental attempt at eugenics, but I do believe that was Margaret Sanger's goal.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

Rynar, do you believe that a disparate impact is convincing evidence of intentional discrimination? For instance, if a the percentage of black people who fail a municipal civil service test is significantly higher than the percentage of white people who fail, do you feel that is strong evidence that the municipality is deliberately trying to discriminate against black people?

This is an apples to oranges comparison.

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