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Robert | 11/6/2009 1:53:00 PM mark as inappropriate
Seems to be a statistical dissimilarity here if we hear others schools had reported no problems and "hundreds of students were treated with the same batch with no reported problems" does not explain it away. My gut tells me 9 of "hundreds" is higher than 0 of all others in area vaccinated.
Dispatch should ask MSDH the hard questions. Is the percentage of adverse reactions with this batch higher? How does this percentage of adverse reactions (type that send folsk to the hospital) compare to those across the nation? Was the batch handled appropriately all the way up to administering it?
I believe the vaccine is safe and have gotten the mist for my kids. The risks of H1N1 outweigh the risks of this vaccine. Ms Lester said it best. I have not heard of anyone dying from the vaccine.
AC | 11/6/2009 4:23:00 PM mark as inappropriate
I am glad that Ms. Lester's child can have the vaccine. But, I can assure her that it was not a "side effect" it was a severe reaction to the vaccine that caused my child to be transported twice to the ER. My child was not "freaked out" she was confulsive, having seizures and at times catatonic. Very real and terrifying for both my daughter and us.
HH | 11/6/2009 5:21:00 PM mark as inappropriate
I am so sorry for the children that did have the reactions to the vaccination and I pray they will have a full recovery. The vaccine concerns me because it was fast-tracked. There have been no large studies done on this vaccine, and really, there are no long-term studies done on any vaccines. What is also a MAJOR concern is that the Mississippi State Dept of Health gave inaccurate information when questioned about the reactions. According to the fact sheet published by the Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, signs of a SEVERE ALLERGIC REACTION can include difficulty breathing, hoarsness or wheezing, hives, paleness, weakness, a fast heart beat or dizziness.
HF | 11/6/2009 8:06:00 PM mark as inappropriate
I disagree with everyone except AC because I was there. My friend was the first to go down and I stood over her while she gasped for breath. Then I returned later that night and watched her convulse and go in and out of responsiveness for hours. Maybe I'd take what you say seriously if you were there, but you weren't Robert, and honestly you think now the risk of H1N1 outweigh the risk of the shot, well it doesn't. I do not wish bad things on anyone, but I do not believe you have a right to comment on how "fake" and "safe" the shot is until you witness first hand you child, or best friend going through this. I watched my friend in pain, I watched her cry, and it hurt every second, I watched as they stuck needles in her arms over and over again trying to figure out the reasons for what was going on. So please, for everyone's sake, do not even try and begin to throw your hackneyed theories at the ones who were there. And Robert I'm not speaking only to you, but to everyone. And a little piece of info for you guys, 9 people have died of the vaccine. Agreed it's less that the virus, but it's still 9. It could have easily been 9 more Wednesday. I'm not a doctor, but I can copy and paste off a website all day telling you this and that, but in the end, how do we know it's the truth? They could be feeding us a bunch of bull crap and we'll never know. But I know one thing is certain, it was not "fake."
SN | 11/6/2009 10:35:00 PM mark as inappropriate
My daughter,was also taking to the hospital from a allergic reaction due to the H1n1 shot and by no means it was a sympathic reaction or fake!!!I dont know who or how someone could come up with such crap...Seriously how do fake shortness a breath,seizures,fever..NO you can't it was all REAL.I watched my daughter suffer through this,and it is scary.As a parent you do what is best for your children.How is this possiable from what has happened not just to my daughter but to all of them.From this I or no one else in my family will ever receive this vaccine.
HH | 11/7/2009 7:34:00 AM mark as inappropriate
According to the fact sheet published by the CDC, these serious reactions should be reported to the Vaccine Advers Event Reporting System (VAERS). You can file this report through the VAERS website at
www.vaers.hhs.gov, or by calling 1-800-822-7967.
SWilliams | 11/7/2009 7:46:00 AM mark as inappropriate
An allergic reaction is a dangerous scary situation. Parents should reconsider the vaccine after what happen to these students. Many people have had reactions from the seasonal flu vaccines over the years as well. The seasonal flu vaccine caused dystonia in an NFL cheerleader just a few months ago. She is disabled now and can hardly speak or walk.The CDC first stated children needed two vaccines then they decided on one. Google Dr. Mercola and view his videos about vaccine safety. A strong immune system is the best defense against the flu. Vitamin C and D is being reported to assist in flu prevention. The immune system becomes weakened with each flu vaccination. Everyone has to decide for themselves if they think the vaccine is not only safe but effective. Not many people trust what our government is pushing at this point in time. They have invested 20 billion dollars in the vaccine and 7 billion on advertising promoting the vaccine. Drug companies are the largest lobbyist on Capital Hill. Follow the money you will find the truth. One death is too many no matter if it is from the flu or the vaccine. A death is a death. Especially if it is your child. Prayers are with the children that had a reaction to the vaccine.Google also Alex Jones Prison Planet. Amazing what we do not know about our government. You will be shocked but informed!
SWilliams | 11/7/2009 7:48:00 AM mark as inappropriate
An allergic reaction is a dangerous scary situation. Parents should reconsider the vaccine after what happen to these students. Many people have had reactions from the seasonal flu vaccines over the years as well. The seasonal flu vaccine caused dystonia in an NFL cheerleader just a few months ago. She is disabled now and can hardly speak or walk.The CDC first stated children needed two vaccines then they decided on one. Google Dr. Mercola and view his videos about vaccine safety. A strong immune system is the best defense against the flu. Vitamin C and D is being reported to assist in flu prevention. The immune system becomes weakened with each flu vaccination. Everyone has to decide for themselves if they think the vaccine is not only safe but effective. Not many people trust what our government is pushing at this point in time. They have invested 20 billion dollars in the vaccine and 7 billion on advertising promoting the vaccine. Drug companies are the largest lobbyist on Capital Hill. Follow the money you will find the truth. One death is too many no matter if it is from the flu or the vaccine. A death is a death. Especially if it is your child. Prayers are with the children that had a reaction to the vaccine.Google also Alex Jones Prison Planet. Amazing what we do not know about our government. You will be shocked but informed!
ADC | 11/7/2009 7:48:00 AM mark as inappropriate
I was one of the students that was sent to the emergency room and returned for a second time. It hurts me to see all of these comments about faking and sympathetic reactions while I am at home recovering. I know that I did not voluntarily do those things. Most of the last two days are a blur to me and I can't remember much but I do know it was terrifying to wake up on Thursday and see all the bruises and needle marks in my arms and not know how I got them, and to roll over in my bed and find medical tools that were left by the EMTs. I would understand if the company would say that it was fake in order to save face but not from parents that have children my own age. Now I've heard from several people (even adults-for you speculators) that still have headaches after receiving the shot. I had mine a total of three days ago and I still have not been able to get rid of mine. If that is a side effect when will it leave? Do I have to live with this the rest of my life? Sometimes the pain is tolerable but I never wish to live with this constant pain and fear of the next seizure for the rest of my life.
SWilliams | 11/7/2009 7:49:00 AM mark as inappropriate
An allergic reaction is a dangerous scary situation. Parents should reconsider the vaccine after what happen to these students. Many people have had reactions from the seasonal flu vaccines over the years as well. The seasonal flu vaccine caused dystonia in an NFL cheerleader just a few months ago. She is disabled now and can hardly speak or walk.The CDC first stated children needed two vaccines then they decided on one. Google Dr. Mercola and view his videos about vaccine safety. A strong immune system is the best defense against the flu. Vitamin C and D is being reported to assist in flu prevention. The immune system becomes weakened with each flu vaccination. Everyone has to decide for themselves if they think the vaccine is not only safe but effective. Not many people trust what our government is pushing at this point in time. They have invested 20 billion dollars in the vaccine and 7 billion on advertising promoting the vaccine. Drug companies are the largest lobbyist on Capital Hill. Follow the money you will find the truth. One death is too many no matter if it is from the flu or the vaccine. A death is a death. Especially if it is your child. Prayers are with the children that had a reaction to the vaccine.Google also Alex Jones Prison Planet. Amazing what we do not know about our government. You will be shocked but informed!
sniswonger | 11/7/2009 9:52:00 AM mark as inappropriate
i am one of the students that reciever the H1N1 vaccine at Caledonia High. I had an allergic reaction to the shot and i got sent to the hospital! i had shortness of breath seziure like symptom, as in shaking eyes rolling in the back of my head, i had fever, vomitting, and the nurses and doctors there that were on call told me and my family that i was haveing a allergic reaction to the shot! everyone i seen there inluding the other 2 girls that rode with me in the ambulance were NOT faking at all. the media is just full of bs, they just want to give out positive information of the vaccine to try to manipulate u into getting it. the shot we recieved was Novartis, my youngest brother and sister were suppose to get it also that same day, and now they won recieve it at all. they set another dte to re-give the shot Now. 12. It shoulnt be allowed! so for all of you who say it was "sympathy" or "fake" reactions dont know what you are talking about, bc u simply were not there with us while it wa happening!
Mr. Jordan | 11/7/2009 10:27:00 AM mark as inappropriate
HH,
You are correct about the VAERS form on the CDC web site to report adverse reactions. However, the students and parents should have been told about the VAERS report before taking the shot. As it is, the only report going up the chain will be "allergic and sympathetic reactions." Cover up complete.
If you want to see administrator's scramble, ask to buy, for testing, one of the vaccine vials given at Caledonia. No way, no how, will they let those vials be tested by a neutral source. That should tell you what is going on here.
Ask, also, why no one has admitted that seizures occured in some of the students. Why can't the parent's get an honest accounting of what transpired?
Why didn't the Commercial Dispatch reporter pin down school administrators and health officials on reported seizures instead of dutifully reporting what administrators said? Are they reporters, or mere note takers? Again, cover up complete.
As I said on another thread, there is a snake in this woodpile and we ought to find out where it is.
Parent's should be aware that autoimmune disorders (the reason Novartis vaccine's adjuvant, MF59, it unapproved) can take time to show up, long after the culprits have gotten out of town.
Make them answer now.
Mr. Big | 11/7/2009 11:02:00 AM mark as inappropriate
After I got the shot I started whizzing on myself.
Mr. Big | 11/7/2009 11:03:00 AM mark as inappropriate
After I got the shot I started whizzing on myself.
Matthew | 11/7/2009 11:36:00 PM mark as inappropriate
Check out the Washington Post article on senior doctors that do NOT recommending the vaccines:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... %3Dartslot⊂=AR
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"The senior doctor there doesn't believe in it and doesn't want it for her patients," Soghomonian said. "I think the feeling was it's just too new."
Soghomonian's doctor is one of a small cadre of outliers who remain skeptical about the government's unprecedented immunization campaign, citing doubts about the risks presented by the H1N1 virus or the safety of the vaccine, despite the fact that no worrisome reactions have been reported.
"My feeling is that this is all being over-hyped," said Laurence J. Murphy, a pediatrician in Burke who also will not inoculate his patients. "Most people who get this virus do beautifully. I believe the vaccine hasn't been tested enough. I just think the benefit of it at this point is not outweighed by the possible risk.
BoneheadMatt | 11/7/2009 11:49:00 PM mark as inappropriate
The WP article also gives the pure facts:
"What bothers me is pretty much every doctor in the country is jumping on the bandwagon and saying, 'This vaccine is completely safe' -- even for the pregnant woman and the unborn baby," said Bob Sears, of Orange County, Calif. "But they can't give you a single study that backs up that statement."
SWilliams | 11/8/2009 8:46:00 AM mark as inappropriate
The vaccine has not been tested for safety or effectiveness. The CDC is guessing. The media pushes what the CDC is encouraging. The government pushes the CDC.There were suppose to be 120 million doses available then only 10% of the 120 million were available. The government reported the shortage when people were voicing their concern over the safety of the vaccine. Amazing! This type of news creates fear and panic.People stood out in cold weather with small children for 5 hours or more to get the vaccine because of fear. I would fear the children would become ill from exposure and being around so many people. Sad to know people will create pani in people to make money. People who are now 100 years old will say common sense goes a long way.
Mr. Jordan | 11/8/2009 10:55:00 AM mark as inappropriate
Three of the top four viewed articles on this web site are on the H1N1 shot in Caledonia, yet Sunday's Dispatch has not one peep about it?
This is a conduit to a national level story, but it is not being covered by this paper or WCBI. If the health and well being of their readers is not a priority, what is?
Why have they not explored just what did happen to the injured student's at Caledonia High School? What alternate agenda has taken over here?
SWilliams | 11/8/2009 2:13:00 PM mark as inappropriate
The reactions experienced by these children should be on the news and in the newspaper.Why would a school or any shot giving venue deny or give a less of account of what actually transpired. MUW nursing students giving the injections would be the best on reactions that took place. Nurses are trained to observe adverse reactions to any medications not just flu vaccinations.The parents should ask the nurses what happened after these students were vaccinated. The public needs to know the severity of the allergic reactions. WCBI shame on you if this is being overlooked as a mild situation. Has the entire US covered up the reactions to the vaccine in order to sell their snake oil to people for profit. Since the administration provided the drug makers with protection from lawsuits if the vaccine injured someone they will not be found liable even if a student had died. Does not make me feel warm and fuzzy when a drug maker does not have to stand behind a medication even if it is harmful. Google NFL cheerleader with dystonia after flu vaccine. Student recently in another state was vaccinated without a parent consent. The student had a reaction. The school wanted the parents to sign a consent form after the fact knowing she had a reaction.
SWilliams | 11/8/2009 4:53:00 PM mark as inappropriate
I have commented many times in reference to this article. One because I am a nurse that has had reactions to certain medications and another because I question the safety of a fast made untested vaccine. I have to comment on what Jill Lester is quoted to say in the article. Ms. Lester you are quoted to say "It was just side effects". Side effects can kill just as quickly as an illness sometimes even faster. Anaphylatic shock an allergic reaction that could stop you from breathing. If not treated asap people die. As a nurse allergic to latex I am wondering if some of the students have an unknown latex allergy that could have caused some of these reactions. The vial that the vaccine was drawn from could have a latex stopper. Worth checking into. All vials should be latex free. People do not know they have a latex allergy until a reaction happens. Side effects are never just side effects. Always consider a side effect a warning that something more severe can happen.
Mr. Jordan | 11/8/2009 8:40:00 PM mark as inappropriate
The government wonders why people are wary of their vaccination program. Caledonia is a perfect example.
The Mississippi State Department of Health and the Commercial Dispatch newspaper have never used the term "seizures" in reporting what happened at Caledonia High, yet individual reports say seizures did happen.
Lowndes County School District Superintendent Mike Halford gave the only appraisal that the adverse reactions were "much more than hives," although he did not elaborate.
Students concerns were waved off by some officials as "sympathetic" reactions when those present said they were far more significant than that.
Parents and students were not advised of the VAERS system to report adverse reactions to the shot prior to taking the shot. It is still uncertain if they have been told of the system by any state or school official. This makes it appear official policy is to deny incidents and prevent reporting of any problems.
As bad as this is, it pales next to the military telling the soldiers IT INJURED with MF59 in the anthrax program that they were imagining their ailments, were faking them, or were sissies for complaining about a shot.
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