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 Post subject: Lorena Bobbitt Redux
PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:07 pm 
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I have to say, throwing it in the garbage disposal was a nice touch.

Should I have spoilered this, for the menfolk among us? :twisted:

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:shock:

I don't think much else went through my mind as I read that.

:shock: pretty much says it all.

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This planet has savage, barbaric cultures where it's deemed acceptable to burn off your daughters' clitoral tissue to prevent marital infidelity twenty years in the future.

Meanwhile, in the civilized nations, we have women who cut off their husbands' penises for some infraction or another.

There are times when I'm not entirely convinced that my fellow man is not a member of the same species as me.

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That made me cry. What a horrible, despicable thing to do to someone! I don't care what he did to make her think that he "deserved it," no one deserves that. Even if my husband cheated on me with half the state and treated me like ****, (which he would NEVER do btw my husband rocks), I still wouldn't even consider poisoning him or maiming him like that....that's awful! Poor guy!

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Lol at "aggravated mayhem". Pretty serious time for a charge I've never heard of.

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Huh. I'm curious to hear what she feels he did that deserves this.

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Lol at "aggravated mayhem". Pretty serious time for a charge I've never heard of.


Mayhem: Cutting off or disfiguring; depriving someone from the use of a body part.
Aggravated: Done with specific intent.

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This is what happens when you violate Taamar's "Don't stick your dick in crazy" rule.

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LadyKate wrote:
That made me cry. What a horrible, despicable thing to do to someone! I don't care what he did to make her think that he "deserved it," no one deserves that. Even if my husband cheated on me with half the state and treated me like ****, (which he would NEVER do btw my husband rocks), I still wouldn't even consider poisoning him or maiming him like that....that's awful! Poor guy!


I dunno, Kate... I'm going to have to agree with Lorena Bobbit on this one: A man who sticks it in me without my consent forfeits his junk.


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Rape is one thing... I could understand that kind of rage...

The accompanying article is short on details, but this woman was just apparently unhappy that her husband filed for divorce....


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What makes you think the husband filed for the divorce, Midgen? The article says only that the couple is "going through a divorce".

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Good point...


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I don't think it's really important in this case who exactly filed for divorce.

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Taamar wrote:
LadyKate wrote:
That made me cry. What a horrible, despicable thing to do to someone! I don't care what he did to make her think that he "deserved it," no one deserves that. Even if my husband cheated on me with half the state and treated me like ****, (which he would NEVER do btw my husband rocks), I still wouldn't even consider poisoning him or maiming him like that....that's awful! Poor guy!


I dunno, Kate... I'm going to have to agree with Lorena Bobbit on this one: A man who sticks it in me without my consent forfeits his junk.


Sorry, I just *assumed* that since they were married there wasn't any rape going on...

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LadyKate wrote:
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LadyKate wrote:
That made me cry. What a horrible, despicable thing to do to someone! I don't care what he did to make her think that he "deserved it," no one deserves that. Even if my husband cheated on me with half the state and treated me like ****, (which he would NEVER do btw my husband rocks), I still wouldn't even consider poisoning him or maiming him like that....that's awful! Poor guy!


I dunno, Kate... I'm going to have to agree with Lorena Bobbit on this one: A man who sticks it in me without my consent forfeits his junk.


Sorry, I just *assumed* that since they were married there wasn't any rape going on...


I'm not sure of all the legality behind this, but...

It seems to me since there is implied consent in marriage, it would be an assault/battery issue, not really rape. There's a lot more to "rape" from a legal standpoint due to the danger and consequences of an unauthorized penetration. These are not at issue in a marriage, thus the focus should be on the battery and abuse.

That said, Bobbit never proved any of it.


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Rape in marriage has to involve actual force or actual threat of force. Consent is implied; you must actively say "no" to your spouse.

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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
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I dunno, Kate... I'm going to have to agree with Lorena Bobbit on this one: A man who sticks it in me without my consent forfeits his junk.


Sorry, I just *assumed* that since they were married there wasn't any rape going on...


I'm not sure of all the legality behind this, but...

It seems to me since there is implied consent in marriage, it would be an assault/battery issue, not really rape. There's a lot more to "rape" from a legal standpoint due to the danger and consequences of an unauthorized penetration. These are not at issue in a marriage, thus the focus should be on the battery and abuse.

That said, Bobbit never proved any of it.


And, as DE said, since consent is assumed there must be force (or the threat of force, or other coercion) involved. I remember hearing about a case some years back where the husband demanded sex or else he was going to file for divorce and take this children with him to his home country. I don't recall what the verdict on that one was. And I was speaking generally, not about this specific case, anyway. It would have to be extreme circumstances, but there are situations in which I would de-junk a man. I doubt this woman was in such a situation.

In then end (no pun intended) a married woman has the same right to refuse intercourse as an unmarried woman.


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This planet has savage, barbaric cultures where it's deemed acceptable to burn off your daughters' clitoral tissue to prevent marital infidelity twenty years in the future.

Meanwhile, in the civilized nations, we have women who cut off their husbands' penises for some infraction or another.

There are times when I'm not entirely convinced that my fellow man is not a member of the same species as me.


This planet also has savage, barbaric cultures where it's deemed acceptable to cut off your son's foreskin tissue for absolutely no credible reason whatsoever.


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Echo wrote:
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This planet has savage, barbaric cultures where it's deemed acceptable to burn off your daughters' clitoral tissue to prevent marital infidelity twenty years in the future.

Meanwhile, in the civilized nations, we have women who cut off their husbands' penises for some infraction or another.

There are times when I'm not entirely convinced that my fellow man is not a member of the same species as me.


This planet also has savage, barbaric cultures where it's deemed acceptable to cut off your son's foreskin tissue for absolutely no credible reason whatsoever.


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No, we've already been through this. Mangling a young boy's genitals is a harmless medical necessity that improves hygiene, makes it look nicer, and potentially saves his life. Mangling a young girl's genitals is the height of misogyny. It's not a double standard, either, it's the hallmark of civilization.

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Corolinth wrote:
No, we've already been through this. Mangling a young boy's genitals is a harmless medical necessity that improves hygiene, makes it look nicer, and potentially saves his life. Mangling a young girl's genitals is the height of misogyny. It's not a double standard, either, it's the hallmark of civilization.


Relax a little, and go flog the dolphin. Cut or otherwise.

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Taamar wrote:
And, as DE said, since consent is assumed there must be force (or the threat of force, or other coercion) involved. I remember hearing about a case some years back where the husband demanded sex or else he was going to file for divorce and take this children with him to his home country. I don't recall what the verdict on that one was. And I was speaking generally, not about this specific case, anyway. It would have to be extreme circumstances, but there are situations in which I would de-junk a man. I doubt this woman was in such a situation.

In then end (no pun intended) a married woman has the same right to refuse intercourse as an unmarried woman.


She does. She doesn't, however, have a right to habitually refuse intercourse. Refusal to have sex with your spouse is grounds for divorce just as adultery is. The law does not permit holding your spouse's sexuality hostage.

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