The Glade 4.0

In reality, the Dems have proposed multiple packages that are all weighted more to the Reps' preference, and the Republicans have said no to every offer. The Dems suggested a deficit reduction package consisting of 25% taxes and 75% spending cuts, but the Reps said no. They suggested a package that was only 15% taxes (all of them from closing loopholes and ending tax subsidies) and 85% spending cuts, including cuts to entitlement programs, but the Reps said no. Now the Dems have even proposed a package that is 100% spending cuts, and the Reps in the House are saying no.

After all that, when Boehner says it's the President standing in the way, he's just flat lying.

As I see it, one side has presented actual bills to be voted on, have voted on them, and have passed at least one. The other side has presented "proposals", there have been no actual written bills to be voted on; nothing more than spit-balling, or back of the envelope musings. Words are wind.

As I see it, one side has presented actual bills to be voted on, have voted on them, and have passed at least one. The other side has presented "proposals", there have been no actual written bills to be voted on; nothing more than spit-balling, or back of the envelope musings. Words are wind.

Facism is not a school of thought, it is a racial slur.

I suspect that Obama is smart enough to see that tactic for what it is and not fall for it.

I have the opposite view. Putting forth completely lopsided bills you know have zero chance of passing is empty showboating for the media and a waste of valuable and limited time, whereas actual progress toward resolving the issue is accomplished through good-faith negotiations (i.e. proposals and counterproposals).

When the C-SPAN president met the “read the bill” speaker, it was in private, behind closed doors, without cameras and with no public record of the details.

So he's justifying raising the debt limit by saying "HEY EVERYONE ELSE DID IT!!!11!!1", but he campaigned on 'Change' and 'Hope' ?

"Cut, cap and balance" passed the House with bipartisan support, why couldn't it be voted on on the Senate instead of tabled?

The measure passed 234 to 190, largely along party lines, with Republicans in support and Democrats opposed. But five Democrats sided with Republicans to back the bill, and nine Republicans joined the Democrats in opposition to the bill.

There was no compromise before the last election when health care was more important than jobs, why whine now?

Actually if you look, I complained about the republicans lack of serious input there as well.

Actually if you look, I complained about the republicans lack of serious input there as well.

I'd hardly call that bipartisan support.

Facism is not a school of thought, it is a racial slur.

Actually if you look, I complained about the republicans lack of serious input there as well.

I have nothing to contribute to this thread, except this picture, which made me laugh harder than I have in a long time..

Stop being a child Vindi, you're better than that.