Raltar wrote:
That doesn't disprove what I said. It isn't wrong until they've been taught not to do something, but you don't yell at them or hit them during training. Once they learn, they don't forget. If they are housebroken and sometime later you find that they have gone in the house(which would be considered "wrong" by most people after successful training), that is 100% your fault for not letting them out enough.
Uh, that's not the only time dogs go on the floor. Dogs go on the floor when they are 1) not let out enough (bad owner) 2) they get angry or upset (bad owner) 3) sick (not bad owner) 4) excited (not bad owner) 5) old (not bad owner).
You're generalizing.
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2) Training often goes contrary to the dog's natural instincts. For example, you're not a bad pet owner if your dog gets distracted by a squirrel running by. What do you need in this situation? Typically, all you need is a sharp bark of the dog's name, to regain it's attention and focus.
A properly trained dog will not be distracted by a squirrel. I've trained many hunting dogs that won't move a muscle until I give the word and I have never once yelled at them.
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1) A hunting dog =/ a "properly trained dog". You are not a bad owner simply because you don't train your dog to that level.
2) Not all dogs are suitable for hunting dogs. Why? Some breeds are too easily distracted.
3) I don't buy it that your dogs are always, 100% at the top of their game. When they are working, sure, they are focused. No dog is perfectly focused 100% of the time. Nor should they be. What a miserable existence.