The Glade 4.0

"Turn the lights down, the party just got wilder."
It is currently Sat Nov 23, 2024 2:55 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 2001 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63 ... 81  Next
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:30 pm 
Offline
Near Ground
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:38 pm
Posts: 6782
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Hey, how do you make excessive weekly conference calls even more idiotic? Decree that they be done with video!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:53 am 
Offline
The Dancing Cat
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:21 pm
Posts: 9354
Location: Ohio
@ Farsky

Nothing worse than trying to control your facial expressions over a video-conference call when people spout off fountains of stupid.

_________________
Quote:
In comic strips the person on the left always speaks first. - George Carlin


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Random Thoughts
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:03 am 
Offline
The Reason
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:39 pm
Posts: 859
GD Kids pulling the fire alarm as soon as we walk into school to turn right around and walk back out of the building. :x

_________________
"None is more important, none more legitimate, than that of rendering the people safe as they are the
ultimate guardians of their own liberty."-
Thomas Jefferson

"Yeah, I'm rehearsing my poker face. I don't handle stupid well. *sigh*" - Farsky


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Random Thoughts
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:23 am 
Offline
Near Ground
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:38 pm
Posts: 6782
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Hopwin wrote:
@ Farsky

Nothing worse than trying to control your facial expressions over a video-conference call when people spout off fountains of stupid.

Yeah, I'm rehearsing my poker face. I don't handle stupid well. *sigh*


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:25 am 
Offline
The Dancing Cat
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:21 pm
Posts: 9354
Location: Ohio
Borrow a trick from the lie-detector test people. Keep a thumbtack in your shoe and press your toe into it as needed.

_________________
Quote:
In comic strips the person on the left always speaks first. - George Carlin


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Random Thoughts
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:28 am 
Offline
The Reason
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:39 pm
Posts: 859
Farsky wrote:
Yeah, I'm rehearsing my poker face. I don't handle stupid well. *sigh*


TY- Just spit water on the screen and down my shirt.

_________________
"None is more important, none more legitimate, than that of rendering the people safe as they are the
ultimate guardians of their own liberty."-
Thomas Jefferson

"Yeah, I'm rehearsing my poker face. I don't handle stupid well. *sigh*" - Farsky


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:57 am 
Offline
Bull Moose
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:36 pm
Posts: 7507
Location: Last Western Stop of the Pony Express
I want a new drug. One that leaves me without pain, without side effects and with my brain.

_________________
The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:15 am 
Offline
Rihannsu Commander

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:31 am
Posts: 4709
Location: Cincinnati OH
No. I DONT have to forgive the person who betrayed my confidence. She was quite happy to end our relationship for more than a year. I don't have to listen to her apologies over her latest round of stupidity simply because she feels guilty this time around.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Random Thoughts
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:46 pm 
Offline
Lean, Mean, Googling Machine
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:35 am
Posts: 2903
Location: Maze of twisty little passages, all alike
I've been messing around with Matlab -- well, Octave really -- trying to reverse engineer exactly how Dr. Neil Krawetz creates his "luminance gradient" analysis images like the one in this blog entry (the second of the three analysis images). This is not an easy task, because I don't know Matlab's syntax or features whatsoever, I have only vague and limited linear algebra knowledge from a good 15+ years ago, and I have only some very basic knowledge of digital signal processing. Fairly fundamental tools like Fourier transforms are still beyond my reach at the moment, for instance.

But I thought, and tinkered, and thought some more, and I eventually stumbled into a solution that was very close but not quite right. I computed the luminance of each pixel by simple average: (R + G + B)/3. Then I subsampled the resulting grayscale image at 3x3. I figured I could compute a vector the center pixel by treating each of the surrounding pixels as a vector (i.e., an "arrow") pointing outward, each with a length equal to their luminance. All I would need to do is separate out the X and Y components with sin/cos and sum them into the resulting vector. So if this is a 3x3 subsample:

Code:
D C B
E . A
F G H

The luminance vector should be:

Code:
Lx=cosd(0)*A + cosd(45)*B + cosd(90)*C + cosd(135)*D + cosd(180)*E + cosd(225)*F + cosd(270)*G + cosd(315)*H
Ly=sind(0)*A + sind(45)*B + sind(90)*C + sind(135)*D + sind(180)*E + sind(225)*F + sind(270)*G + sind(315)*H


Which simplifies down to:

Code:
Lx=A + 0.7071B - 0.7071D - E-0.7071F + 0.7071H
Ly=0.7071B + C + 0.7071D - 0.7071F - G - 0.7071H


Doing this processing with nested for loops in Matlab came up with some not-quite-right-but-close images, but was absolutely slow as balls because of the way that Matlab scripts work (purely interpreted with no JIT compiling, or even loop caching). It would take a couple minutes for it to process just a single 800x600-ish image. So I started poking around in GIMP, trying to see if I could come up with a way to do this operation faster. When I ran into the convolution matrix feature, I realized I had a winner. Lx and Ly were just:

Code:
[ -0.7071     0     0.7071          [ 0.7071     1     0.7071
  -1          0     1        and      0          0     0
  -0.7071     0     0.7071 ]         -0.7071    -1    -0.7071 ]


Googling a bit more, I found that Matlab could also do convolution matrices via the imfilter() function. Ah, hah! No more ridiculously slow for-loops. It was really fast now, but the results still weren't quite the same as Krawetz's. Then I noticed that Matlab's help page for imfilter referenced the fspecial() function, which would prepare various stock filter matrices for you to plug in to the imfilter() command. I looked up the help on fspecial() and sifted through the options. It didn't take long to notice two pre-defined filters called "sobel" and "prewitt".

Sobel:
Code:
[  1  2  1
   0  0  0
  -1 -2 -1 ]


Prewitt:
Code:
[  1  1  1
   0  0  0
  -1 -1 -1]


Sonofa! Yeah, so I just spent 3 or 4 hours more or less reinventing the Sobel and Prewitt operators.

:facepalm:

I don't know whether this should make me feel smart or dumb.

_________________
Sail forth! steer for the deep waters only!
Reckless, O soul, exploring, I with thee, and thou with me;
For we are bound where mariner has not yet dared to go,
And we will risk the ship, ourselves and all.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:14 pm 
Offline
Manchurian Mod
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:40 am
Posts: 5866
It's okay. **** MatLab anyway.

_________________
Buckle your pants or they might fall down.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:30 am 
Offline
adorabalicious
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:54 am
Posts: 5094
You kids and Matlock.

_________________
"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:15 pm 
Offline
God of the IRC
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:35 pm
Posts: 3041
Location: The United States of DESU
[02/29 15:14] <+Yukito> Moobot, is your girlfriend a spambot?
[02/29 15:14] <@Moobot> Omg yes.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:45 am 
Offline
God of the IRC
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:35 pm
Posts: 3041
Location: The United States of DESU
Happy Texas Independence Day.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:31 pm 
Offline
I got nothin.
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:15 pm
Posts: 11160
Location: Arafys, AKA El Müso Guapo!
FarSky wrote:
Hey, how do you make excessive weekly conference calls even more idiotic? Decree that they be done with video!


Oh, sorry, my webcam's busted.

_________________
Image
Holy shitsnacks!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:52 pm 
Offline
Evil Bastard™
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:07 am
Posts: 7542
Location: Doomstadt, Latveria
FarSky wrote:
Hey, how do you make excessive weekly conference calls even more idiotic? Decree that they be done with video!
Hey, how do you make excessive weekly conference calls with video less idiotic?

You show them this website ... and say ...

http://www.polycom.com/

"If you're gonna make me video conference, do it right."

_________________
Corolinth wrote:
Facism is not a school of thought, it is a racial slur.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:55 pm 
Offline
The Dancing Cat
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:21 pm
Posts: 9354
Location: Ohio
The technology is not the problem Khross.

_________________
Quote:
In comic strips the person on the left always speaks first. - George Carlin


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:14 pm 
Offline
Evil Bastard™
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:07 am
Posts: 7542
Location: Doomstadt, Latveria
Hopwin wrote:
The technology is not the problem Khross.
Do you have any idea what forcing some executive level functionary with the technology skills of a grapefruit to interface with Polycom and their pricing is like? The video conferencing idea simply goes away.

_________________
Corolinth wrote:
Facism is not a school of thought, it is a racial slur.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:29 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:59 pm
Posts: 9412
Khross wrote:
Hopwin wrote:
The technology is not the problem Khross.
Do you have any idea what forcing some executive level functionary with the technology skills of a grapefruit to interface with Polycom and their pricing is like? The video conferencing idea simply goes away.

I've seen this happen.

_________________
"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:50 am 
Offline
The Dancing Cat
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:21 pm
Posts: 9354
Location: Ohio
Khross wrote:
Hopwin wrote:
The technology is not the problem Khross.
Do you have any idea what forcing some executive level functionary with the technology skills of a grapefruit to interface with Polycom and their pricing is like? The video conferencing idea simply goes away.

Sadly we use Polycom for all of our video and tele-conferencing, so someone here figured it out.

_________________
Quote:
In comic strips the person on the left always speaks first. - George Carlin


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:38 am 
Offline
Evil Bastard™
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:07 am
Posts: 7542
Location: Doomstadt, Latveria
Hopwin wrote:
Khross wrote:
Hopwin wrote:
The technology is not the problem Khross.
Do you have any idea what forcing some executive level functionary with the technology skills of a grapefruit to interface with Polycom and their pricing is like? The video conferencing idea simply goes away.
Sadly we use Polycom for all of our video and tele-conferencing, so someone here figured it out.
No, they just agreed to pay. It's not so much as "figuring it out" as it is "agreeing to pay".

_________________
Corolinth wrote:
Facism is not a school of thought, it is a racial slur.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:14 pm 
Offline
Near Ground
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:38 pm
Posts: 6782
Location: Chattanooga, TN
The beatings will continue until morale improves.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:14 pm 
Offline
Bull Moose
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:36 pm
Posts: 7507
Location: Last Western Stop of the Pony Express
Why are the good ones already taken.

_________________
The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:41 pm 
Offline
Bru's Sweetie

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:04 am
Posts: 2675
Location: San Jose, CA
Micheal wrote:
I want a new drug. One that leaves me without pain, without side effects and with my brain.


I just got a new drug today...it's got the pain part covered, but don't know about the rest just yet.

Oh, yeah...just got home from the hospital about an hour ago...was in ER from late Tuesday evening until late Tuesday night when they admitted me to the hospital for pancreatitis...again. This time it was much worse than the December episode, and this time I got a referral to the surgeon! Yay!

_________________
"Said I never had much use for one, never said I didn't know how to use one!"~ Matthew Quigley

"nothing like a little meow in bed at night" ~ Bruskey

"I gotta float my stick same as you" Hondo Lane

"Fill your hand you son of a *****!"


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Random Thoughts
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:00 pm 
Offline
Irish Princess
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:55 am
Posts: 3679
Location: My Kingdom Come
Sometimes you try, try, cry and still... Then someone comes along and slaps you in the face and asks you why...it's not meant to be.

Clare, thanks for slapping me in the face. You are always right!

_________________
Quote:
Do ever want to just grab someone and say...WTF is wrong with you?


Dream as if you'll live forever...
...Live as if you'll die tomorrow


Vivere Senza Rimpianti


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:32 pm 
Offline
Manchurian Mod
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:40 am
Posts: 5866
If you put so much as one foot in that bog, you'll smell bad for the rest of your life.

_________________
Buckle your pants or they might fall down.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 2001 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63 ... 81  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 172 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group