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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
No, Taly, you're wrong. Crime doesn't pay.


Heh. I know you're being sarcastic, but it needs saying anyway:

If crime didn't pay, there'd be far fewer criminals.

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Talya wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
No, Taly, you're wrong. Crime doesn't pay.


Heh. I know you're being sarcastic, but it needs saying anyway:

If crime didn't pay, there'd be far fewer criminals.


Why? We have lots of teachers.


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Talya wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
No, Taly, you're wrong. Crime doesn't pay.


Heh. I know you're being sarcastic, but it needs saying anyway:

If crime didn't pay, there'd be far fewer criminals.


Criminals are not noted for their fantastic ability to conduct cost-benefit analysis.

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Diamondeye wrote:
Talya wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
No, Taly, you're wrong. Crime doesn't pay.


Heh. I know you're being sarcastic, but it needs saying anyway:

If crime didn't pay, there'd be far fewer criminals.


Criminals are not noted for their fantastic ability to conduct cost-benefit analysis.

The Captains of the black market sectors don't get into business because the money is bad. Plus, their business savy, relative to the markets they capitalize on, don't require them to pay any taxes. What could you do with 40% more of your income? Would you consider someone who is able to maintain a 6 figure income while minimizing both state and federal taxes to be financially savy? I know I would.

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Rynar wrote:
Diamondeye wrote:
Talya wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
No, Taly, you're wrong. Crime doesn't pay.


Heh. I know you're being sarcastic, but it needs saying anyway:

If crime didn't pay, there'd be far fewer criminals.


Criminals are not noted for their fantastic ability to conduct cost-benefit analysis.

The Captains of the black market sectors don't get into business because the money is bad. Plus, their business savy, relative to the markets they capitalize on, don't require them to pay any taxes. What could you do with 40% more of your income? Would you consider someone who is able to maintain a 6 figure income while minimizing both state and federal taxes to be financially savy? I know I would.


I was talking about criminals in general. Black marketeers are the exception, not the rule.

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Every single law creates a black market. Your premise appears to be flawed.

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Rynar wrote:
Every single law creates a black market. Your premise appears to be flawed.


Not really, no. Every law does not create a black market, and every criminal that violates laws that do create a black market is not necessarily doing it for that reason.

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Your argument depends on the notion thy human action predates human thought.

Good luck with that.

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19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

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Depending on the study, you will find that most criminals are of below average intelligence (almost all are of below average wisdom, but that is hard to prove.) Most being 50% plus one, this is probably true.

In addition, one survey of arresting officers stated that 95% of criminals were under the influence at time of arrest. That was the officer's experience and belief, independent testing of the criminals was not performed for this study.

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How are you defining "criminal," anyways? The smartest individuals figure out how to screw others while not breaking any laws so society is forced to protect them. Even when they resort to actual crime, well one of my favorite quotes is, "The only people who rob banks are those that are too stupid to forge checks."

This guy became a millionaire through a gambit that has probably killed thousands of children, and it was all perfectly legal.

I don't believe for a second that acting "ethically" is superior in business with how easy it is to dodge culpability by forming a corporation, and when the ire gets to be too much to still turn a profit you can just shut it down and start over with a different name, so everyone forgets.


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Criminal defined here is someone arrested, tried, and convicted of a crime above the level of infraction.

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I'm failing to see how fraud is perfectly legal.

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Rynar wrote:
Your argument depends on the notion thy human action predates human thought.

Good luck with that.


Now you're just making up vague, random nonsense. Good luck with that.

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You are far too bright to not follow exactly what I'm saying.

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Rynar wrote:
You are far too bright to not follow exactly what I'm saying.


I'm not entirely sure you're following what you're saying.

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