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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:34 am 
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Since a large part of the country think that it's ok for the government to mandate everyone buy a certain product or face a fine/tax...to the folks that are ok with that, what else do you think should people should be forced to buy or do by the government?

This is for anyone actually.

Reason I ask is while I was browising through articles this morning, I ran across a transcript from the new show The Cycle on MSNBC and most of the panel on the show were in favor of the suggestion by someone named, not making this up, Kyrstal Ball who said that voting should be mandatory and would be good for America(something that Austraila does I just found out).

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More efficient cars
Vegetables.
Soap.
Wind mills

It would probably be easier to say what we shouldnt mandate.

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Judging from Smith and Wesson today they already mandated the purchase of some small frame revolvers.

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I'm about to mandate the purchase of a sig 226

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Up over 17% on earnings. Meant to buy 1,000 this morning because I knew this was going to go up. ARGHH.

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Voting should be mandatory, actually. Vote how you want, write '**** off' on the ballot if you feel like it, but we should all have to submit an opinion. We parade ourselves as a democracy but base our decisions on the opinions of what is literally a vocal minority.


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Wait, so forcing people who don't care and likely haven't paid any attention to the available options to cast a ballot would *help*?

Call me skeptical.

As to what the government can/should mandate people purchase/not purchase, I think anything that would otherwise shift the burden off onto someone else is a good idea. For instance- if you can afford health insurance, but don't have it, chances are you're going to end up at some point with a healthcare burden you can't pay, but going to the emergency room anyway (car accident, etc). At which point, someone else will end up paying for your care because you chose not to have insurance. Similarly, we require people who drive to purchase auto insurance to pay for damage they might cause to others.

I think mandatory flood insurance in flood-rich areas is a good thing (New Orleans, some areas of WV).

I think recycling should be mandatory. We're fast running out of some material resources, most of which are going to the dump rather than being reclaimed. Not to mention the fact that we're fast running out of room to dump things. I think SF has some great ideas when it comes to reducing waste that we have to pay to take care of.

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Hannibal wrote:
I'm about to mandate the purchase of a sig 226

How does that handle? I wanted one but couldn't locate locally so I got a Glock 17 (which fits me like a glove).

Oh and I want a wind mill too.

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Also, an interesting bit of trivia (especially related to the purchase of guns): Some previous requirements of private purchases by the government:

1792: Congress passes and Washington signs a bill requiring shipowners to purchase insurance for sailors.

1794: Congress passes and Washington signs a bill requiring all men of military age to purchase a gun.

1798: Congress passes and Adams signs a bill requiring individual sailors to purchase personal insurance.

Might be a bit off on a couple of the dates, feel free to correct me if so.

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Well, we have a disturbingly high number of homeless children. We also offer a tax break for having dependent children. I think the federal government should mandate that all married couples without children adopt. It finds homes for our orphans, and it provides tax breaks to married couples that were otherwise unable to take advantage of them. As an additional bonus, it removes one of the obstacles to banning abortion by providing homes for the children of teenage girls who are unprepared for the role of parenting.

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Corolinth wrote:
Well, we have a disturbingly high number of homeless children. We also offer a tax break for having dependent children. I think the federal government should mandate that all married couples without children adopt. It finds homes for our orphans, and it provides tax breaks to married couples that were otherwise unable to take advantage of them. As an additional bonus, it removes one of the obstacles to banning abortion by providing homes for the children of teenage girls who are unprepared for the role of parenting.



Awesome idea!! Azile, how many do you want to sign up for? You can handle 6 right? I mean come on, it's for the children!

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Before we can allow anyone to adopt multiple children, we have to make sure all of the childless couples have gotten one.

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Hopwin wrote:
Hannibal wrote:
I'm about to mandate the purchase of a sig 226

How does that handle? I wanted one but couldn't locate locally so I got a Glock 17 (which fits me like a glove).

Oh and I want a wind mill too.


I like the fit and the finish of the Sigs but coming from a glock owner standpoint Im having an issue with the price. My glocks always sat a bit off in my hand. But I can always go to a g19 if I can't stomach the price. Also I'm moving from .40 to 9mm. Now watch me end up with a Springfield or colt commander in .45. ;/


Id also like a windmill.

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Corolinth wrote:
Before we can allow anyone to adopt multiple children, we have to make sure all of the childless couples have gotten one.



Pretty sure that Azile and his wife don't have any kids. He gets to go to the front of the line.

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.45 is less snappy than .40.

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Voting should be mandatory, actually. Vote how you want, write '**** off' on the ballot if you feel like it, but we should all have to submit an opinion. We parade ourselves as a democracy but base our decisions on the opinions of what is literally a vocal minority.


Mostly, we parade ourselves as a free country. I'm sorry, but I don't feel like being forced to have an opinion....


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
I'm sorry, but I don't feel like being forced to have an opinion....

That's fine. Abstain, but go on the record as such.


NephyrS wrote:
Wait, so forcing people who don't care and likely haven't paid any attention to the available options to cast a ballot would *help*?

You think that if people were legally required to cast a vote, they wouldn't bother educating themselves on issues? It wouldn't be the same scenario as it is today where people know they can **** because they don't plan on voting anyway.


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Yes. I think the only thing that would change is people not giving a **** and then voting randomly, instead of not giving a **** and not voting at all.

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Lenas wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
I'm sorry, but I don't feel like being forced to have an opinion....

That's fine. Abstain, but go on the record as such.


NephyrS wrote:
Wait, so forcing people who don't care and likely haven't paid any attention to the available options to cast a ballot would *help*?

You think that if people were legally required to cast a vote, they wouldn't bother educating themselves on issues? It wouldn't be the same scenario as it is today where people know they can **** because they don't plan on voting anyway.

The process should be more restricted, not mandatory. We don't need those who can't be bothered to care tonhave a greater say than they allready do.

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Yes. I think the only thing that would change is people not giving a **** and then voting randomly, instead of not giving a **** and not voting at all.


I don't think that's very realistic. If people were forced to vote, they would at least find out which candidate suited them best. If they really didn't want to vote, you could always abstain just as you do now. The entire ideal behind it, though, is that a person needs to speak for themselves versus a rep speaking for them via proxy. I'm tired of the self-defeating rhetoric of someone not voting because "it wont matter".


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Lenas wrote:
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Yes. I think the only thing that would change is people not giving a **** and then voting randomly, instead of not giving a **** and not voting at all.


I don't think that's very realistic. If people were forced to vote, they would at least find out which candidate suited them best. If they really didn't want to vote, you could always abstain just as you do now. The entire ideal behind it, though, is that a person needs to speak for themselves versus a rep speaking for them via proxy. I'm tired of the self-defeating rhetoric of someone not voting because "it wont matter".

This woman has been legislatively mandated to wear clothing. Do you feel she educated herself and made the best decision?
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Lenas wrote:
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Yes. I think the only thing that would change is people not giving a **** and then voting randomly, instead of not giving a **** and not voting at all.


I don't think that's very realistic. If people were forced to vote, they would at least find out which candidate suited them best. If they really didn't want to vote, you could always abstain just as you do now. The entire ideal behind it, though, is that a person needs to speak for themselves versus a rep speaking for them via proxy. I'm tired of the self-defeating rhetoric of someone not voting because "it wont matter".

Celebrity endorsements would literally drive elections.

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This woman has been legislatively mandated to wear clothing. Do you feel she educated herself and made the best decision?


Whether or not we think her decision is the best one is completely irrelevant.


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Hopwin wrote:
Celebrity endorsements would literally drive elections.


This.


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