The Glade 4.0

"Turn the lights down, the party just got wilder."
It is currently Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:46 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 90 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:34 am 
Offline
The King
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:34 am
Posts: 3219
Since a large part of the country think that it's ok for the government to mandate everyone buy a certain product or face a fine/tax...to the folks that are ok with that, what else do you think should people should be forced to buy or do by the government?

This is for anyone actually.

Reason I ask is while I was browising through articles this morning, I ran across a transcript from the new show The Cycle on MSNBC and most of the panel on the show were in favor of the suggestion by someone named, not making this up, Kyrstal Ball who said that voting should be mandatory and would be good for America(something that Austraila does I just found out).

_________________
"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:36 am 
Offline
Home of the Whopper
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:51 am
Posts: 6098
Legos. Definitely legos. Selfish brat was hogging all the toys while the lazy kids slept.



Image

_________________
"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Jesus of Nazareth


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:41 am 
Offline
pbp Hack
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:45 pm
Posts: 7585
More efficient cars
Vegetables.
Soap.
Wind mills

It would probably be easier to say what we shouldnt mandate.

_________________
I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:07 am 
Offline
adorabalicious
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:54 am
Posts: 5094
Judging from Smith and Wesson today they already mandated the purchase of some small frame revolvers.

_________________
"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:15 am 
Offline
Has a plan
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:51 pm
Posts: 1584
I'm about to mandate the purchase of a sig 226

_________________
A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:21 am 
Offline
adorabalicious
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:54 am
Posts: 5094
Up over 17% on earnings. Meant to buy 1,000 this morning because I knew this was going to go up. ARGHH.

_________________
"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:55 am 
Offline
Web Ninja
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:32 pm
Posts: 8248
Location: The Tunt Mansion
Voting should be mandatory, actually. Vote how you want, write '**** off' on the ballot if you feel like it, but we should all have to submit an opinion. We parade ourselves as a democracy but base our decisions on the opinions of what is literally a vocal minority.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:13 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:12 pm
Posts: 2366
Location: Mook's Pimp Skittle Stable
Wait, so forcing people who don't care and likely haven't paid any attention to the available options to cast a ballot would *help*?

Call me skeptical.

As to what the government can/should mandate people purchase/not purchase, I think anything that would otherwise shift the burden off onto someone else is a good idea. For instance- if you can afford health insurance, but don't have it, chances are you're going to end up at some point with a healthcare burden you can't pay, but going to the emergency room anyway (car accident, etc). At which point, someone else will end up paying for your care because you chose not to have insurance. Similarly, we require people who drive to purchase auto insurance to pay for damage they might cause to others.

I think mandatory flood insurance in flood-rich areas is a good thing (New Orleans, some areas of WV).

I think recycling should be mandatory. We're fast running out of some material resources, most of which are going to the dump rather than being reclaimed. Not to mention the fact that we're fast running out of room to dump things. I think SF has some great ideas when it comes to reducing waste that we have to pay to take care of.

_________________
Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:21 pm 
Offline
The Dancing Cat
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:21 pm
Posts: 9354
Location: Ohio
Hannibal wrote:
I'm about to mandate the purchase of a sig 226

How does that handle? I wanted one but couldn't locate locally so I got a Glock 17 (which fits me like a glove).

Oh and I want a wind mill too.

_________________
Quote:
In comic strips the person on the left always speaks first. - George Carlin


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:23 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:12 pm
Posts: 2366
Location: Mook's Pimp Skittle Stable
Also, an interesting bit of trivia (especially related to the purchase of guns): Some previous requirements of private purchases by the government:

1792: Congress passes and Washington signs a bill requiring shipowners to purchase insurance for sailors.

1794: Congress passes and Washington signs a bill requiring all men of military age to purchase a gun.

1798: Congress passes and Adams signs a bill requiring individual sailors to purchase personal insurance.

Might be a bit off on a couple of the dates, feel free to correct me if so.

_________________
Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:31 pm 
Offline
Manchurian Mod
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:40 am
Posts: 5866
Well, we have a disturbingly high number of homeless children. We also offer a tax break for having dependent children. I think the federal government should mandate that all married couples without children adopt. It finds homes for our orphans, and it provides tax breaks to married couples that were otherwise unable to take advantage of them. As an additional bonus, it removes one of the obstacles to banning abortion by providing homes for the children of teenage girls who are unprepared for the role of parenting.

_________________
Buckle your pants or they might fall down.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:45 pm 
Offline
The King
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:34 am
Posts: 3219
Corolinth wrote:
Well, we have a disturbingly high number of homeless children. We also offer a tax break for having dependent children. I think the federal government should mandate that all married couples without children adopt. It finds homes for our orphans, and it provides tax breaks to married couples that were otherwise unable to take advantage of them. As an additional bonus, it removes one of the obstacles to banning abortion by providing homes for the children of teenage girls who are unprepared for the role of parenting.



Awesome idea!! Azile, how many do you want to sign up for? You can handle 6 right? I mean come on, it's for the children!

_________________
"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:52 pm 
Offline
Manchurian Mod
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:40 am
Posts: 5866
Before we can allow anyone to adopt multiple children, we have to make sure all of the childless couples have gotten one.

_________________
Buckle your pants or they might fall down.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:53 pm 
Offline
Has a plan
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:51 pm
Posts: 1584
Hopwin wrote:
Hannibal wrote:
I'm about to mandate the purchase of a sig 226

How does that handle? I wanted one but couldn't locate locally so I got a Glock 17 (which fits me like a glove).

Oh and I want a wind mill too.


I like the fit and the finish of the Sigs but coming from a glock owner standpoint Im having an issue with the price. My glocks always sat a bit off in my hand. But I can always go to a g19 if I can't stomach the price. Also I'm moving from .40 to 9mm. Now watch me end up with a Springfield or colt commander in .45. ;/


Id also like a windmill.

_________________
A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:04 pm 
Offline
The King
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:34 am
Posts: 3219
Corolinth wrote:
Before we can allow anyone to adopt multiple children, we have to make sure all of the childless couples have gotten one.



Pretty sure that Azile and his wife don't have any kids. He gets to go to the front of the line.

_________________
"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:31 pm 
Offline
adorabalicious
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:54 am
Posts: 5094
.45 is less snappy than .40.

_________________
"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:22 pm
Posts: 5716
Lenas wrote:
Voting should be mandatory, actually. Vote how you want, write '**** off' on the ballot if you feel like it, but we should all have to submit an opinion. We parade ourselves as a democracy but base our decisions on the opinions of what is literally a vocal minority.


Mostly, we parade ourselves as a free country. I'm sorry, but I don't feel like being forced to have an opinion....


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:56 pm 
Offline
Web Ninja
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:32 pm
Posts: 8248
Location: The Tunt Mansion
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
I'm sorry, but I don't feel like being forced to have an opinion....

That's fine. Abstain, but go on the record as such.


NephyrS wrote:
Wait, so forcing people who don't care and likely haven't paid any attention to the available options to cast a ballot would *help*?

You think that if people were legally required to cast a vote, they wouldn't bother educating themselves on issues? It wouldn't be the same scenario as it is today where people know they can **** because they don't plan on voting anyway.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:18 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:12 pm
Posts: 2366
Location: Mook's Pimp Skittle Stable
Yes. I think the only thing that would change is people not giving a **** and then voting randomly, instead of not giving a **** and not voting at all.

_________________
Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:26 pm 
Offline
Not a F'n Boy Scout
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:10 pm
Posts: 5202
Lenas wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
I'm sorry, but I don't feel like being forced to have an opinion....

That's fine. Abstain, but go on the record as such.


NephyrS wrote:
Wait, so forcing people who don't care and likely haven't paid any attention to the available options to cast a ballot would *help*?

You think that if people were legally required to cast a vote, they wouldn't bother educating themselves on issues? It wouldn't be the same scenario as it is today where people know they can **** because they don't plan on voting anyway.

The process should be more restricted, not mandatory. We don't need those who can't be bothered to care tonhave a greater say than they allready do.

_________________
Quote:
19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

Ezekiel 23:19-20 


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:32 pm 
Offline
Web Ninja
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:32 pm
Posts: 8248
Location: The Tunt Mansion
NephyrS wrote:
Yes. I think the only thing that would change is people not giving a **** and then voting randomly, instead of not giving a **** and not voting at all.


I don't think that's very realistic. If people were forced to vote, they would at least find out which candidate suited them best. If they really didn't want to vote, you could always abstain just as you do now. The entire ideal behind it, though, is that a person needs to speak for themselves versus a rep speaking for them via proxy. I'm tired of the self-defeating rhetoric of someone not voting because "it wont matter".


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:41 pm 
Offline
Not a F'n Boy Scout
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:10 pm
Posts: 5202
Lenas wrote:
NephyrS wrote:
Yes. I think the only thing that would change is people not giving a **** and then voting randomly, instead of not giving a **** and not voting at all.


I don't think that's very realistic. If people were forced to vote, they would at least find out which candidate suited them best. If they really didn't want to vote, you could always abstain just as you do now. The entire ideal behind it, though, is that a person needs to speak for themselves versus a rep speaking for them via proxy. I'm tired of the self-defeating rhetoric of someone not voting because "it wont matter".

This woman has been legislatively mandated to wear clothing. Do you feel she educated herself and made the best decision?
Image

_________________
Quote:
19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

Ezekiel 23:19-20 


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:48 pm 
Offline
The Dancing Cat
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:21 pm
Posts: 9354
Location: Ohio
Lenas wrote:
NephyrS wrote:
Yes. I think the only thing that would change is people not giving a **** and then voting randomly, instead of not giving a **** and not voting at all.


I don't think that's very realistic. If people were forced to vote, they would at least find out which candidate suited them best. If they really didn't want to vote, you could always abstain just as you do now. The entire ideal behind it, though, is that a person needs to speak for themselves versus a rep speaking for them via proxy. I'm tired of the self-defeating rhetoric of someone not voting because "it wont matter".

Celebrity endorsements would literally drive elections.

_________________
Quote:
In comic strips the person on the left always speaks first. - George Carlin


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:54 pm 
Offline
Web Ninja
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:32 pm
Posts: 8248
Location: The Tunt Mansion
Rynar wrote:
This woman has been legislatively mandated to wear clothing. Do you feel she educated herself and made the best decision?


Whether or not we think her decision is the best one is completely irrelevant.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:57 pm 
Offline
The King
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:34 am
Posts: 3219
Hopwin wrote:
Celebrity endorsements would literally drive elections.


This.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 90 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 256 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group