The Glade 4.0

Then I'm not sure the question. You asked what would have changed, I said I wouldn't be with her if she was a man.



For almost the a last 12 years they've been like best buddies...with occasional benefits. Seriously. And when it came down to serious discussions about the last month and a half, he's the one that made her cry and agree she screwed up by breaking up with me before talking to me about her problems, not me. I've never seen them fight. Yeah, I don't see this as an issue.



They're not her kids. That sounds harsh, but legally, they're not. Ultimately the children's parents are still legally responsible for them.



That's kinda what it's been like for the last 12 years, except my bed was with my husband. I would just sometimes join her, or she would join us.


Yeah, that would be me, now. We have a very big bedroom. Can't get bigger than a King Size bed at a reasonable price, but we fit.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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To be fair, she classified us as "guinea pigs", which implies, to me, that she wants to know our reaction. She also used a question mark in her opening post, which, to me, implies she wants an answer. Then, there's the whole idea of posting personal information on a forum. She's a smart lady and knows what that would lead to.

All together I took that to mean a solicitation of opinions.

But, whatever - she got them anyway

Good luck Taly - this is one of those things where nobody's going to ever be able to understand your situation, so any advice you get isn't going to fit well.

You were correct, sir.

Also, i posted them, not just on a forum, but in the rants forum. I needed people to feel free to start a religion-inspired tirade calling me the Great Harlot Babylon if they felt so inclined. You didn't.

You're all rather boring, you know.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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I apologize for my heathen loose-moraled fellow posters, Great Harlot Babylon.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

I think I said that like 7 years ago...figured it didn't need repeating.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

Now I thought that was Bery...

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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Well now, she is a hell bound pagan sinner whose loose morals and assorted heresies have earned her a front row gibbet among the hottest fires of damnation - but as long as she asks nicely there is no reason for us to be rude.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

Though I may not necessarily agree with your life style. my thoughts are very simple ..
Judge not, lest you be Judged.

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History of the Condom
In 1272, the Muslim Arabs invented the condom, using a goat's lower intestine.
In 1873, the British somewhat refined the idea, by taking the intestine out of the goat first.

But why not? You obviously are not unattracted to men. If she were a man with the same compatibility to you in terms of personality (obviously, very good since you find love with each other), would it not be fine to include him in your life like you currently do?

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

Hell has some damned good beaches from what I remember in the translation of Dante's Divine Comedy.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

There are a couple reasons why not.

(1) Why not, from my perspective: Contrary to everything we like to tell ourselves about romantic love, ultimately sex is what separates the love you feel for your spouse from the love you might feel for your best friend. As such, sexual characteristics take on importance and meaning there. Any "straight man" here who disagrees with me on this, just think about whether you could fall in love with your best friend, even though he's a man. It's not shallow, it's how we're wired. About a year before I met Lor, I came out to my husband as bisexual. After 5 years living with me, he already knew, but he was glad I told him. After my first time with her, my husband and I had a discussion, and I tried to explain to him that being with Lor had sated a hunger I'd had that had never been filled before, even though being with him also filled a different need. It was him that made the following metaphor, not me. He said "I get it, I think, Jackie. It's like hunger and thirst. They are related, but one doesn't solve the other." A woman fills a hunger I didn't already have filled. A man would just be more of something I already had.
(2) Why not, from his perspective: My husband is not bisexual, I am. In a ménage à trois, this kinda matters.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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LoL. Hope she doesn't eat at chik-fi-la.

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"None is more important, none more legitimate, than that of rendering the people safe as they are the
ultimate guardians of their own liberty."- Thomas Jefferson

"Yeah, I'm rehearsing my poker face. I don't handle stupid well. *sigh*" - Farsky

But but... bigoted chicken is the best chicken!

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Holy shitsnacks!

I just can't muster enough anything to care really. It would be like someone posting here asking me what I think they should have for your dinner. Cram whatever you/who want in your body, have a fishstick or stuff.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

Do you like fishsticks Elmo?

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Holy shitsnacks!

(2) makes sense to me because it is purely practical. But on the other hand, who said a relationship involving two men and one woman has to involve a devil's threeway? Would it not be acceptable for a woman to be in love with two different men and be with each one at separate times? Would it be less acceptable than her having a relationship with both a man and a woman?

(1) Is true, but you can also have sex with other men. So while I understand being with another woman might fill another desire that would go unfulfilled with just a man, I don't know if it's fair to say that a woman couldn't have sexual, romantic relationships with two different men at once, at least not on the premise of fulfillment of different desires. In fact, I know of several women who have this arrangement albeit the men are not aware of it. That's a big difference, but at the same time it makes me ponder if it isn't possible with two men just the same.

Sorry to pry, curious is all. Feel free to have a drink on me.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

I suppose it would be possible, but we don't have an "open" relationship like that. It just wouldn't work for us, and I had no interest in seeking another man. He's more than enough of a man for me. He makes a lousy woman, though.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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What if he came back and said he was bi-sexual and needed a dude in his life in addition to you?

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Yes?

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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Would you accommodate?

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Yes.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
█ ♣ █

It wasn't a gotcha question, it was curiousity is all.

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Oh God, that's exactly what this thread is missing: Bery and Monte flamethrowing about morality. Just thinking about it has me all nostalgic.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

Bery went on a rant at me once about this very subject.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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On which iteration? I'm trying to remember it.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20