The Glade 4.0

"Turn the lights down, the party just got wilder."
It is currently Sat Nov 23, 2024 6:33 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:14 am 
Offline
Oberon's Playground
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:11 am
Posts: 9449
Location: Your Dreams
Uganda (an African country where the single largest religious group is Catholicism, at 42%) is once again attempting to pass a law that would give the death penalty to homosexuals and incarcerate those who support them.

Now, don't get me wrong, there are more Christian churches opposing this bill than promoting it (although not in Uganda itself -- even the normally LGBT-friendly Anglican church is spouting hateful rhetoric), but the primary impetus behind it appears to be American fundamentalist evangelical influence in the country, supported by local Catholics.

I could post a bunch of links, but here's the basics:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/ ... XR20120628

_________________
Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me

█ ♣ █


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:31 am 
Offline
Near Ground
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:38 pm
Posts: 6782
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Yeah, this was nice:

http://twitter.com/BryanJFischer/status ... 1286794240

That's Bryan J. Fischer from the American Family Association, tweeting "Homosexuality now against the law in Uganda, just as it was for 200 years in the US. It can be done." and linking to an article from "men of faith" praising the Ugandan leader.

Edit: on the plus side, we just had an election that pretty soundly told these guys "**** off, we as Americans aren't putting up with your bullshit anymore."


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:37 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:22 pm
Posts: 5716
I don't know what "aggravated homosexuality" is, but it definitely sounds bad. Should probably be illegal....

It saddens me that US citizens are influencing this. Still, I don't think we can tell them not to.

Hopefully sensible minds will prevail. However, due to the AIDS epidemic in Africa, I suspect homosexuals are going to have a harder time than perhaps elsewhere.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:14 pm 
Offline
Rihannsu Commander

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:31 am
Posts: 4709
Location: Cincinnati OH
Quote:
By contrast with the predominantly Muslim areas in North Africa and the Horn region, traditional cultures and religions in much of Sub-Saharan Africa have generally exhibited a more liberal attitude vis-a-vis female out-marriage sexual activity. The latter includes practices such as multiple sexual partners and unprotected sex, high-risk cultural patterns that have been implicated in the much greater spread of HIV in the region.[25]

HIV infection rates in East and Central Africa are generally moderate to high. Uganda has registered a gradual decrease in its HIV rates from 10.6% in 1997, to a stabilized 6.5%-7.0% since 2001.[1][25] This has been attributed to changing local behavioral patterns, with more respondents reporting greater use of contraceptives[citation needed] and a two-year delay in first sexual activity as well as fewer people reporting casual sexual encounters and multiple partners.[25] Similarly, the HIV infection rate in Kenya dropped from around 14% in the mid-1990s to 5% in 2006. Between 2004-2008, Tanzania had a prevalence rate of 3.4%, with Rwanda maintaining a regional low of about 3.0% since 2005.[1]


South Africa is the primary hotbed (no pun intended) of AIDS in Africa, but that is largely attributed to the heterosexual behavior of the men in that country.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:28 pm 
Offline
Commence Primary Ignition
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:59 am
Posts: 15740
Location: Combat Information Center
Africa in general is plagued with poor education and endless conflicts driven by tribalism. As for churches and Christianity (and Islam) well.. I think most Christians from the Americas, Europe, Australia, or pretty much anywhere BUT Africa would be very surprised at what "Catholic" or "Anglican" (The second largest religious group in Uganda) doctrine involves.

As for church groups here in the U.S....

Well, most homosexuals in Uganda probably ARE christians themselves (the article indicates this, anecdotally), and as for the American "Family" Association and its ilk, these are the sorts of people that would regularly condemn Catholics and Anglicans alike as "Works-based churches" and quite a few less savory things if confronted with anything beyond what the fat man with the sweaty armpits decided was the "biblical" teaching this past week. It's amusing to see that they're all about supporting a population of RCs and Anglicans made up of people who are too poorly educated to understand the doctrines of their own faith, as soon as those people sponsor something that bears on an issue that the AFA has consistently been losing on in this country.

By the way, the Reuters link indicates that the death penalty was removed from the bill:

Quote:
Bahati re-introduced a mildly watered-down second draft in February and is confident of a "yes" vote even though the bill's progress has stalled at committee level.

The death sentence clause is gone, as is the demand Ugandans report gays to the authorities, he told Reuters.

_________________
"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:11 pm 
Offline
pbp Hack
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:45 pm
Posts: 7585
Again what they do in their privacy should be their problem and being openly hostile toward homosexuals right to exist doesn't help them with their greatest need.

It really saddens me that more people on my side of the issue don't get that. I'm rather sure no one at WBC has had any kind of open door opportunity to witness to homosexuals.

_________________
I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:32 pm 
Offline
Too lazy for a picture

Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:40 pm
Posts: 1352
This reminds me why I wanted to create the Omnii "What's **** up in Africa now" thead

_________________
"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."
— Alan Moore


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 243 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group