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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:52 am 
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My god are even the palace guard comedians turning on the president?

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My god are even the palace guard comedians turning on the president?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism ... From-Media



Jon Stewart is a political comedian. He thrives on stupidity in government. When asked if he was happy that Bush's term in office was up, he implied that Bush had been a goldmine for comedians, and would be a hard act to follow for his successor. It shouldn't surprise anyone that he goes after amusing gaffes by Obama's administration.

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My god are even the palace guard comedians turning on the president?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism ... From-Media



Jon Stewart is a political comedian. He thrives on stupidity in government. When asked if he was happy that Bush's term in office was up, he implied that Bush had been a goldmine for comedians, and would be a hard act to follow for his successor. It shouldn't surprise anyone that he goes after amusing gaffes by Obama's administration.

Except that for the past 5 years he has not gone after those gaffes.

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My god are even the palace guard comedians turning on the president?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism ... From-Media



Jon Stewart is a political comedian. He thrives on stupidity in government. When asked if he was happy that Bush's term in office was up, he implied that Bush had been a goldmine for comedians, and would be a hard act to follow for his successor. It shouldn't surprise anyone that he goes after amusing gaffes by Obama's administration.


That's true. It doesn't make him NOT a B.O. knob-slobberer.

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It should be noted that when the in-car radio was invented, it was protested as being distracting and dangerous.


They are.. a little. Not enough to be a problem. Texting while driving is a major hazard. Talking on the phone while driving is somewhere in between. The reason the radio is a minor hazard is that except for the sort of idiot that constantly channel-surfs, you don't spend much time actually operating it.

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Texting while driving is also illegal here.

There's got to be a line, though. "Distracted driving," I believe they call it. Does having two screaming toddlers in the back seat count? It does a hell of a lot more to distract the driver than talking on a mobile phone, and yet the latter is illegal here, the former is not. How much legislation do we really need?


Talking on a phone is not less distracting that toddlers. Toddlers are annoying when screaming, but you don't have to actually do anything; they can just sit there and fuss. Talking requires you to pay attention to what's being said to you and what you're saying. Texting is worse because you have to look at the screen, and not just a quick glance; you have to stare at it.

That's where the line is - is the distraction momentary (as in one or two seconds) or continuous, does it take the eyes off the road, does it require driver interaction, and is it something that the driver necessarily needs to do in order for the vehicle to be useful? If you can't take toddlers in the car, what good is it? conversely, you pretty much never NEED to text while driving.

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My god are even the palace guard comedians turning on the president?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism ... From-Media

Also it is interesting that Stewart's criticism is not that what O did was wrong per se, but rather that it gives ammo to conspiracy nuts.

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Talking on a phone is not less distracting that toddlers. Toddlers are annoying when screaming, but you don't have to actually do anything; they can just sit there and fuss. Talking requires you to pay attention to what's being said to you and what you're saying. Texting is worse because you have to look at the screen, and not just a quick glance; you have to stare at it.

That's where the line is - is the distraction momentary (as in one or two seconds) or continuous, does it take the eyes off the road, does it require driver interaction, and is it something that the driver necessarily needs to do in order for the vehicle to be useful? If you can't take toddlers in the car, what good is it? conversely, you pretty much never NEED to text while driving.


And yet, apparently, studies have shown that having a conversation while driving is equally distracting and dangerous, regardless of whether you're holding a phone to your ear, using a handsfree bluetooth link through your car, or talking to a passenger in the car. So why are we picking on some types of distraction and not others?

(I picked "screaming toddlers" because parents, and especially mothers, seem genetically programmed to being made distraught by the sound of very young children crying. Personally, it very well may be the most distracting sound I've ever heard. It's difficult to think of anything else while a child is crying.)

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What studies would those be?

The factors I listed are what increase the degree of distraction. They aren't important because they're different types; they're important because they increase the degree by adding more components or time. A study that claims a momentary, minor distraction, or one that doesn't divert the driver's attention from the road is just as dangerous as one that completely takes their attention off driving is just flat wrong.

You pretty much have to have passengers in a car, and there's no way to stop people talking to them. We can make reasonable efforts to get people not to talk on the phone. There's no reason we should avoid "picking on" certain kinds of distraction. We don't need to be "all or nothing".

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What studies would those be?



I'd heard them before on the news. Conveniently, when I searched, wiki links the studies in its sources..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_pho ... ree_device

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Driving while using a handsfree cellular device is not safer than using a hand held cell phone, as concluded by case-crossover studies.[19][20] epidemiological,[1][2] simulation,[9] and meta-analysis.[11][12] The increased cognitive workload involved in holding a conversation, not the use of hands, causes the increased risk.[21][22][23] For example, a Carnegie Mellon University study found that merely listening to somebody speak on a phone caused a 37% drop in activity in the parietal lobe, where spatial tasks are managed.[24] The consistency of increased crash risk between hands-free and hand held cell phone use is at odds with legislation in many locations that prohibits hand held cell phone use but allows hands-free.



Note that this also means a conversation with a passenger would pose the same risk.

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They're wrong - not in the sense of the mental effort, but of the decrease in safety.

If you have a hand off the steering wheel, you're less in control of the vehicle. In some situations (basically any time you don't need to maneuver more than a lane change) this doesn't matter, but if you have any sort of need to turn or suddenly maneuver, you're in far less control of the vehicle.

This technically doesn't mean the driver is more mentally distracted, but it does reduce their overall ability to respond to driving conditions.

As for the handsfree thing, there's no point in regulating it. How would you ever tell if someone was using one while driving? It's no more practical or reasonable than trying to prevent people from taking kids in the car or talking to a passenger. People using the phone in their hand can be seen doing it.

There's also the fact that while talking on the phone doesn't take more attention than talking on handsfree, dialing does. Voice dialing, on the other hand, does not take the eyes off the road. Again, if these people say that taking your eyes off the road, especially for more than a momentary glance, is not more dangerous than other types of distraction, they're on crack.

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A conversation with a person in the car will often stop during high traffic concentrations, and I suspect having another set of eyes in the car along with a conversation partner decreases some of the risks of accidents (driver less likely to nod off, alerted to potential hazard)


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I keep reading this thread title as "Your Daily Dose of Tranny".

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I keep reading this thread title as "Your Daily Dose of Tranny".

THANK YOU!!! I figured I was the only one who read it that way.


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There's also the fact that while talking on the phone doesn't take more attention than talking on handsfree, dialing does. Voice dialing, on the other hand, does not take the eyes off the road. Again, if these people say that taking your eyes off the road, especially for more than a momentary glance, is not more dangerous than other types of distraction, they're on crack.
Primary cause of motor vehicle accidents in the United States: distracted driving. Primary cause of driver distraction in the United States: other passengers in the same vehicle.

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Not to mention tranny is hate speech these days. People get glitter thrown on them for being insufficiently supportive and tolerant of transgenders. I therefore move that Stathol and Dave have their avatars changed to very glitterrific ponies as punishment.

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Not to mention tranny is hate speech these days. People get glitter thrown on them for being insufficiently supportive and tolerant of transgenders. I therefore move that Stathol and Dave have their avatars changed to very glitterrific ponies as punishment.


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"Robin Hood" group sued over feeding expired parking meters


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The lawsuit does not deny group members' right to videotape and takes no issue with them filling expired parking meters, but said there is a concern that the three parking enforcement officers will quit. The suit states the city would suffer financially from having to hire and train new employees, and might have difficulty filling the positions.


per the article they're harassing the officers.


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per the article they're harassing the officers.


The "harrassment" only involves attempting to get in front of the officers (I think they said at lest 20 feet in front) to prioritize parking meters in their current path.

That's called being effective, not harassment.

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In addition, since when did heckling become something you could sue over?

"Oh noes, they were mean to the parking attendant! Better shut them up."

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It's basically a "he said, she said" argument right now:

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According to the suit, the residents "regularly, repeatedly and intentionally taunted, interfered with, harassed, and intimidated" the officers starting last December, "surrounding, touching or nearly touching, and otherwise taunting and harassing" the officers.


If anyone did those things to any of you during your work time, I can guarantee you'd be up in arms about it.


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According to the suit, the residents "regularly, repeatedly and intentionally taunted, interfered with, harassed, and intimidated" the officers starting last December, "surrounding, touching or nearly touching, and otherwise taunting and harassing" the officers.


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In the filing, parking enforcement officer Linda Desruisseaux said, "Besides following me, crowding around me, making video recordings of my activities, and placing coins in expired meters to prevent me from writing tickets, these individuals repeatedly taunt and harass me, asking why I am stealing peoples' money and telling me to get another job ... In particular, Graham Colson likes to taunt me by saying, 'Linda, guess what you're not going to do today - write tickets.' ... The taunting and harassment tends to get worse when there is a group, as they try to one-up each other at my expense."


Hostile work environment?


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