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Diamondeye and Arathain:
Taly and I have discussed religion, faith, and spirituality at length for years. She and I have negotiated our terms and definitions. My first post in this thread points out that science is currently leaning toward an Origin of Life that invalidates the majority of Christian mythology and dogma, even as allegorical as Genesis and Deuteronomy happen to be. After that, I asked a series of questions designed to establish or at least begin a discussion in which we come to an agreement on terms.
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We is inclusive of everyone: the forum needs a discussion on your definition of evidence, proof, and material evidence, because that's obviously a point of disagreement between you two and other posters. Asking what you mean by something is in no way asking you not to mean whatever you mean.
Don't think so. I've explained these already.
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The statement you guys keep taking out of context though, that's neither insult nor psychobabble. I can, and am capable, of flatly stating, "God is." My definition of "God" is known to the forums -- God is the totality of all knowledge and information. My particular form of agnostic pantheism is loosely Christian because I choose to follow a predominantly Christian moral set. You two, however, have yet to participate in that discussion with Taly; you have not come to an agreement on terms in contention or even attempted to.
Yeah, very interesting, but not particularly worthwhile of discussion. I suppose you are free to define God however you like. You confess it is "loosely Christian", but frankly that really only means it is not the Christian definition.
IMO, it is the height of foolishness to "define God", particularly in a setting such as this. First, if God exists, he is not subject to our definitions (probably, or he is, we don't know, do we?) Further, knowing the crowd, it's just a dumb thing to do. Lastly, my faith is personal, and I'm not interested.
Getting back to the point, I have participated in the discussion with Taly - what you are discussing is a derail, and not what the discussion was about. What I have engaged is claims of "false religions like Christianity" and "equal credibility with the flying spaghetti monster". You are subsequently coming up with your own definition of God, which is not the Christian God. That's great and all, but it's not the conversation.