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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:25 am 
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Again, under what pretense do you get to dictate the terms and content of another's post? You have told Elmarnieh he should not have an opinion. You have told me I don't have the privilege to ask you questions? Are you the owner of these forums? Do you have some authority over the rest of us of which we are unaware?

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Why are you guys even doing this? I mean.. seriously. What is the point?


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Again, under what pretense do you get to dictate the terms and content of another's post? You have told Elmarnieh he should not have an opinion. You have told me I don't have the privilege to ask you questions? Are you the owner of these forums? Do you have some authority over the rest of us of which we are unaware?


I can tell you you don't have privilege to ask me questions any time I want. You don't get it. It doesn't matter if you ask because I'm under no obligation to answer or even acknowledge that you asked. You can sit there and ask all you want; it's irrelevant if you do or not. You don't have privilege to ask me anything, so you get no response. It's the same with Elmo; he can have an opinion; he just shouldn't because his opinion is **** stupid. It's the equivalent of a Cliff Claven opinion.

You're just distorting it to make it sound as if I'm giving orders when I'm not. Obviously people can do whatever they want; there's nothing I can do about that. I am not, however, obligated to either answer your questions, nor give Elmo's opinion one iota of respect. Get the **** over it.

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Why are you guys even doing this? I mean.. seriously. What is the point?


Who cares?

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Diamondeye wrote:
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Why are you guys even doing this? I mean.. seriously. What is the point?


Who cares?

Nobody, anymore. Which is why I stop reading threads when you start posting, these days, DE.

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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
Diamondeye wrote:
Midgen wrote:
Why are you guys even doing this? I mean.. seriously. What is the point?


Who cares?

Nobody, anymore. Which is why I stop reading threads when you start posting, these days, DE.


Yeah, that's about what I expect out of the agreement-fest. I mean, we have the chart thread, and what does everyone do? start trying to pretend I'm some sort of authoritarian because I'm not deep down in the negatives, despite being right at the line - you know, because I really need to be the center of attention. And yet, you wonder why I ahve so much to say. All that's left here is sitting around being outraged at whatever the latest story is, and absolutely no tolerance for the idea that things may not be as simple as "tyranny, government!" all the time. There's an entire thread dedicate to nothing but accepting allegations of tyranny at face value. So, if you're not reading what I ahve to say I'm rpetty comfortable it's because people just want to read what they agree with.

No worries though. I still like talking Star Citizen with you. Some of you people don't seem to get that Hellfire is Hellfire. With one or two rare exceptions that can't keep it here, what happens in here is in here, as far as I'm concerned.

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It seem that folks mostly post to A)disagree with someone or B)agree with someone disagreeing with another (dog piling). You don't see a lot of folks taking the effort to agree outside a few GOOMH posts.

The way I see it, DE just hasn't gotten the "give a damn" beaten out of him yet. That's about the biggest difference between us.

He has gotten MUCH better with the embedded quotes though, so good has come of this.

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Diamondeye wrote:
Kaffis Mark V wrote:
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Why are you guys even doing this? I mean.. seriously. What is the point?


Who cares?

Nobody, anymore. Which is why I stop reading threads when you start posting, these days, DE.

So, if you're not reading what I ahve to say I'm rpetty comfortable it's because people just want to read what they agree with.

No worries though. I still like talking Star Citizen with you. Some of you people don't seem to get that Hellfire is Hellfire. With one or two rare exceptions that can't keep it here, what happens in here is in here, as far as I'm concerned.

To be honest, it's because I simply don't have the time or inclination to read your point-by-point walls of texts that you frequently post in 4 or 5 in a row spurts. It just seriously drags the entire pace and discourse of the thread down in ways that other posters don't seem to, with stubborn back-and-forthing that I just don't care enough to try to follow.

As you say, though, that's a Hellfire thing. Other forums aren't argumentative like that, so I'm happy to hang out with you there. ;)

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Seriously?

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"MROIP"

Ok, I'll bite. My best guess so far is "Moral Realism something (Ontology? Ontological?) something Philosophy"

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Multiplayer Roleplaying Online Intellectual Property?


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Stathol wrote:
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"MROIP"

Ok, I'll bite. My best guess so far is "Moral Realism something (Ontology? Ontological?) something Philosophy"

Mind Reading Over Internet Protocol. Of course, I cheated, and referenced an IM from last week.

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Stathol wrote:
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"MROIP"

Ok, I'll bite. My best guess so far is "Moral Realism something (Ontology? Ontological?) something Philosophy"


I'm going with "something Pinky would say, like "narf" or "zort"". Used in a sentence: "Uh, I think so Brain, but how are we gonna teach a goat to dance with flippers on? Mroip!"

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Stathol wrote:
"**** you, I do what I want!"

Seriously?

No, not even close. No one's ever been entitled to answers when they come in here and ask questions. He's also straight back on the "ignore" function, so I guess you won't have to worry about it.

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Diamondeye and Arathain:

Taly and I have discussed religion, faith, and spirituality at length for years. She and I have negotiated our terms and definitions. My first post in this thread points out that science is currently leaning toward an Origin of Life that invalidates the majority of Christian mythology and dogma, even as allegorical as Genesis and Deuteronomy happen to be. After that, I asked a series of questions designed to establish or at least begin a discussion in which we come to an agreement on terms.


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We is inclusive of everyone: the forum needs a discussion on your definition of evidence, proof, and material evidence, because that's obviously a point of disagreement between you two and other posters. Asking what you mean by something is in no way asking you not to mean whatever you mean.


Don't think so. I've explained these already.

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The statement you guys keep taking out of context though, that's neither insult nor psychobabble. I can, and am capable, of flatly stating, "God is." My definition of "God" is known to the forums -- God is the totality of all knowledge and information. My particular form of agnostic pantheism is loosely Christian because I choose to follow a predominantly Christian moral set. You two, however, have yet to participate in that discussion with Taly; you have not come to an agreement on terms in contention or even attempted to.


Yeah, very interesting, but not particularly worthwhile of discussion. I suppose you are free to define God however you like. You confess it is "loosely Christian", but frankly that really only means it is not the Christian definition.

IMO, it is the height of foolishness to "define God", particularly in a setting such as this. First, if God exists, he is not subject to our definitions (probably, or he is, we don't know, do we?) Further, knowing the crowd, it's just a dumb thing to do. Lastly, my faith is personal, and I'm not interested.

Getting back to the point, I have participated in the discussion with Taly - what you are discussing is a derail, and not what the discussion was about. What I have engaged is claims of "false religions like Christianity" and "equal credibility with the flying spaghetti monster". You are subsequently coming up with your own definition of God, which is not the Christian God. That's great and all, but it's not the conversation.


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That's great, but the guy needs to chill a bit.

Baby steps. If he pushes too hard, he's just going to force a widespread crisis of faith. That's the sort of thing that creates new denominations.


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
That's great, but the guy needs to chill a bit.

Baby steps. If he pushes too hard, he's just going to force a widespread crisis of faith. That's the sort of thing that creates new denominations.


The last liberal reformer to get elected to the papacy was probably poisoned, so yes, he should be careful.

In other news, I could probably give my dad a heart attack by informing him that while it was still vague, it's very possible that Pope Francis has opened up Catholic heaven to us unbelieving heathens with recent remarks.

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