Hannibal wrote:
I disagree. Both Democrats and Republicans, at all levels of government, actively work to implement rule changes that supress any canidate that doesnt have their backing.
No they don't.
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Changing signature requirements, changing filing requirements, even up to the shenanigans in Ohio recently.
Assertions of "shennanigans" are not evidence. None of the rest have any logical connection to surpressing any candidate. By that standard, any election rule or qualification at all could be said to "suppress" candidates. It isn't like unrealistic candidates would get elected if only they could run; they don't have positions that appeal broadly in the first place.
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Third parties are a real threat to establishment candidates, because they eat the margins the two parties are different in. Id say 6% of voters decide the election. 47% are going to stick with the sports team mentality. If a third party takes that margin, then both R and D have to take hard turns to ensure their core turns out in force. That was evident in the last presidential election.
I hate to break it to you, but this theory pretty much entirely disproves your entire complaint, and establiushes that these candidates are not electable. They only eat margins; they can't actually win except in rare circumstances because the third parties don't have positions that enough people actually want. Either they take away from the base, or they try to slide into the moderate middle, but either way they simply don't appeal to enough people.
Furthermore, when they eat the margins from one party, they increase the chance of the other party getting elected. It's therefore to the advantage of either party to encourage third parties that absorb votes from the other party more than their own. Collusion between the parties to prevent third parties from gaining appeal wouldn't serve any purpose; it would be a double-edged sword.
And once again, we're completely off topic because people have to go off into complaining about the fact that A) people have the gall to vote based on their own interests, and not for Obama just because he obviously is the best guy for them in the opinion of people who know nothing about their life situation or B) that their dream candidates don't have enough broad-based appeal to win.
Back to the topic:
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Simferopol, Ukraine (CNN) -- The standoff in Ukraine's Crimea region is a strange one, where soldiers appear to be standing around amid an air of calm. They wear no military insignia, but there's little doubt about who they are.
Russian forces "have complete operational control of the Crimean peninsula," a senior U.S. administration official told CNN, with estimates of 6,000 Russian ground and naval forces in the region. A law is being considered in the Russian parliament that would allow Crimea to be annexed, according to the parliament's website.
Armed men are blocking 10 Ukrainian military and naval bases in Crimea, the newly appointed naval commander of Ukraine, Rear Adm. Serhei Gayduk, told a Ukrainian TV station.
Many ethnic Russians live in Crimea, where support for Russia is strong. Part of Russia's navy -- the Russian Black Sea Fleet -- has a base in Crimea's city of Sevastopol that has been there for 230 years.
In Crimea's capital, Simferopol, soldiers were circling government buildings and patrolling some streets, but their presence did not feel invasive, CNN correspondent Diana Magnay reported Monday.
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It appears that there is a "war of information" in the region "between those who watch Russian state TV and those who are getting their news from the West, none of them listening to the calls from Kiev for unity in this country," Magnay reported.
It has been, Magnay says, "a very low-key kind of invasion."
Crimea's First Vice-Premier Rustam Temirgaliyev also described the situation as quiet, Russian state news agency ITAR Tass reported on Monday.
"Despite hysteria in Ukraine's central media, the situation on the peninsula remains absolutely calm. No conflicts have flared up in Crimea over the past 24 hours. Crimea has preserved its inter-ethnic peace," Temirgaliyev said, according to ITAR Tass.
The calmness contrasts with reports that Russia has issued an ultimatum to Ukrainian forces in Crimea to clear out by 5 a.m. Tuesday or face a "military storm," according to a report from Russian state-run news agency Interfax, citing a Ukrainian Defense Ministry source.
Additionally, Ukrainian Defense Ministry spokesman Vladislav Seleznyov told CNN that Russia's Black Sea fleet commander went aboard a blocked Ukrainian warship in Sevastopol harbor on Monday and issued an ultimatum: Swear allegiance to the new Crimean authorities, surrender, or face an attack. The Russian commander, Aleksandr Vitko, did not mention a deadline, Seleznyov said.
But Russia denies plans to storm the Ukrainian military units in Crimea, Interfax said, citing an unidentified spokesman for the Russian Black Sea Fleet. Interfax said the spokesman called these reports "utter rubbish."
"We have gotten used to hearing claims that we are conducting military operations against our Ukrainian colleagues," said the spokesman, adding, "Attempts to set us against each other will fail."
Meanwhile, Seleznyov told CNN that up to 12 trucks full of Russian troops have crossed into the eastern Crimean city of Kerch from Russia.
Additionally, Ukrainian Border Service Assistant Chief Col. Sergei Astakhov described Russian troop movements by ferry from Russia across the Strait of Kerch in a phone conversation.
Astakhov said the first two ferries carrying armed men were navigating toward the ferry dock and border post in Kerch. As the ferries approached the port, 10 heavily armed troops from the Russian Black Sea Fleet attacked the border post from land and used force to overwhelm the Ukrainian border guards, Astakhov said.
The account of the attack contradicts the calm scene that CNN correspondents had observed in Kerch earlier Monday. Close to 100 men in green uniforms, carrying weapons such as AK-47s, lingered outside the main entrance to the ferry port Monday. Soldiers around there were not masked -- they were relaxing, eating and drinking tea, CNN's Ben Wedeman reported.
Half the soldiers were sitting around and waiting, with some standing and others spaced out every 100 meters. They appeared not to be on high alert. One Ukrainian soldier with an insignia remained by the entrance where cars enter the ferry port.
Three six-wheeled military trucks, used for transporting troops, have black license plates indicative of Russian forces based in Crimea, per the agreement between Ukraine and Russia.
An officer who wished to be identified only as Alexander, wearing a hat with the Russian Black Sea Fleet insignia, told CNN he and others from the Sevastopol naval base had been deployed outside the ferry port since Saturday. If they weren't there, he said, "there would be a civil war in Ukraine."
Alexander said the troops are there to protect their Ukrainian brothers from those who seized power locally in Kiev. Ukrainians gave them places to stay and shower, and locals have brought them food, he said.
The troops will stay in Kerch until Crimea decides what it wants to do, Alexander said.
Crimea is the last major stronghold of opposition to the new political leadership in Ukraine. The country's President, Viktor Yanukovych, was ousted February 22 after months of anti-government protests reached a bloody climax. Street clashes between demonstrators and security forces left more than 80 dead.
Note the underlined: First, Russia relies on this area for support of it's Black Sea fleet. Unlike their northern ports, it's always ice-free. You can review the history of the cold war for the attendant issues for the Russian naval situation; politics have changed but geography hasn't.
Second, like the invasion of Georgia, this is based on ethnicity. There's a strong parallel to the fate of Czechoslovakia prior to WWII; taking part of a country based on the presence of people there that are ethnically similar to the taking nation.
The important differences are: The west didn't negotiate away Ukraine's territory without their consent, Putin isn't Hitler and probably does not have designs on Poland, Norway, or France, and most importantly, NATO created precedent for this by allowing Kosovo to split off rather than simply making Serbia behave itself. We have encouraged ethnic balkaniztion in the actual balkans, and now elsewhere, and now we're faced with the fact that country too strong for us to force it to sto might do the same thing.
Ukrainian ethnic/linguistic divisions discussed hereThe era of "conquest is always unacceptable" is about to be over. Russia knows what we're willing to go to war over, and what we're not, and there is no massive cold war arsenal of nukes to make the risk of being wrong unacceptable; nuclear arsenals have shrunk to where nuclear war is survivable and winnable. They know that Ukraine has absolutely no chance of defeating them, and that the area they're targeting is one sympathetic to them. They chose their target well. "International law" is not going to help Ukraine. China is not going to help Ukraine. NATO is going to do nothing but talk, and NATO shouldn't go to war to preserve the Crimea from Moscow. It's a wake-up call. Law extends only as high as the ability to enforce it.