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All but those things he said about jailing his political opponent, finding ways to suppress the media, blaming minoritys and religious groups for our woes, calling for a requirement that people of a specific faith must register.


You mean those parallels?

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I've never criticized the POTUS. Ever.

That's mainly because the office holder was legally elected by the citizens of the US exercising their right to vote their conscious. My criticism would imply that I feel my right to decide the leader of our nation is somehow more important than theirs. That would be decidedly un-american, to say the least.

I have criticized unelected cabinet members, and I've been critical of facets surrounding certain issues. That's a right we all have equally, and doesn't call into question the rights of those who disagree.

To be assaulted by the continuing criticism from those claiming that "uneducated white male deplorable bigoted homophobic racists have banded together and elected someone who will bring ruin to this great and progressive nation" goes beyond the pale.

So, now I want to know, where were these deplorable rioting, burning, and destroying property when Obama was elected? That's not a rhetorical question... where were they? I don't ever remember that happening and I'm pretty certain that it wasn't in numbers even beginning to approach what's being done today.

People exercising their rights elected their candidate. Period. Mic drop, even. Progressives need to spend time examining their hypocrisy and STFU. Their right to elect whom they choose is NOT more valuable to this nation than mine, and to even suggest that it is makes THEM the un-american "deplorable".

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Well, the main difference is Obama didn't promise to take away people's hard fought civil rights.

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Holy shitsnacks!

yeah, and when Trump kills american citizens without affording them their right of due process, I'll be right up there with you, storming the castle.

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Will you be there when muslims are forced to register? When gays have their civil rights curtailed? When us citizens are declared incapable of doing their job because of what country their family came from?

You act like the fact that he promised to do terrible things if elected shouldn't cause alarm. I get it, politicians usually don't do much of what they say they will. But usually, people are complaining about that fact. This is different. This time they're worried that he WILL do it, because the terrible things will not be if he breaks his campaign promises, but rather if he keeps them. Even worse if Mike Christian Sharia Pence gets his way.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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If the government were to illegally do the things you are bringing up, I sure will be. If the government follows the laws and enacts change legally, I'll suck it up the same way I sucked up the abrogation of states rights by the SCOTUS.

We're a nation of laws. As long as the POTUS follows the laws, it's all good. If I don't like what they do legally, I'll vote accordingly.

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If the changes a candidate wants are pursued legally, then I have no cause. Change the law. Heck, the president can legally use a pen to effectivly change how the executive will or won't enforce the laws... but he can't make laws without legislative oversight.

Checks and balances prevent what progressive liberals are claiming, for the most part, will destroy this nation. The other is sour grapes - yeah, change can take away some of what they fought for. That's what happened when they had the power, and now the pendulum has swung. Democracy and all that jazz.

I have no problem with folks criticizing Trump for the idiotic stuff he's said. A lot of it I agree with. Trump is a douche. Granted. He's still the legal president-elect, and I have a problem with the names used to described those that elected him. And, once he takes office, I'll stop calling him a douche.

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Right. But you acknowledge you voted for a guy who promised to do the things you'll protest about it he follows through?

Or.. You think those things are okay if they get past the checks and balances and are done "legally?" So, if you legally changed the Constitution, abolish the rights and freedoms America is known for, then that's okay and people should be fine with it because it's all nice and legal?

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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Yeah, I voted for Trump. I'm part of the "Never Hillary" camp. And yes, if the constitution gets changed, I'm good, no matter what it means to me personally... "the will of the people" and all that. I will work to change it though... legally ... using my vote. Every vote matters. You have NO idea how proud I am to finally be able to say to all you here, knowing it to be true, and knowing it to be irrefutable. I've taken a load of **** over the years for making that statement. It's GOOD to know I was right!

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By that logic, you should be protesting constantly. America exists because of an illegal action. Freedom is more important than legality, and in a free society, one of government's roles is to protect its citizens from "the will of the people."

Remember, Hitler never did anything illegal in Germany, and in the end, the Holocaust was the will of the people.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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I have. I've voted in every national election since I was allowed to vote, and every local election where I have an issue I want addressed.

I don't start fires though. That's not protest, that's larceny.. or whatever the fire starter equivalent is.

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Arseny?

Larson?

Hmm. That would imply that they were stealing -and- lighting fires.

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If he actually pulls off removing the ban on selling healthcare across state lines and allows the importation of generics, along with presumably allowing clinical trials for those generics to be conducted in other countries, his election will be worth it. I remain skeptical, though. Obama got a supermajority and wanted single payer. Pfizer and Aetna brought their money and we instead ended up with a bill that requires that we pay them or get fined. They'll pull out all the stops to quash this and throw as much money at it as they need to, as it literally threatens the majority of their profits.

Just to point something out... my entire political philosophy is predicated on the right to vote and the power inherent in that right being the source of authority in the governance of this nation. "We" are in charge. Take exception as much as you want with whatever policy you want, that's all good. Just don't take exception to the rights other folks have, legally granted by the laws that govern us all equally and democratically. "We" decide.

If there was any proof, or even a preponderance of evidence that suggested this nation wasn't governed by laws .. by the united "will of the people" focused on self determination .. I'd be the one to STFU. Look at my posting history since Jun 12, 2014 if you don't believe me. I've visited here pretty much ever day since then, but I began to believe I was wrong about my philosophy. I began to think that perhaps we weren't all equal... and that I was just an old man with old outdated ideas.

Turns out, the only thing I was wrong about was thinking that I was wrong.

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The one that had classified information on a private server, and likely engaged in pay-to-play with foreign entities?

I don't agree with him pushing that issue, but threatening to jail people for actual crimes is hardly Hitler-ish.



I don't agree with his specific threats against the media, but by the same token the professional media in this country feels entitled to behave as if it were a Ministry of Truth for its own partisan agenda, so they brought it on themselves.



He's reached out to blacks and pointed out that voting Democrat over and over hasn't helped them, and as for the rest, "illegal immigrants" aren't a "minority".



Group. singular.

That religious group seems to be unable to stop excusing and tacitly supporting its own most extreme elements, and the suggestion that some of those extreme elements might indeed disguise themselves to infiltrate is hardly outrageous. I'm pretty sure Jews weren't blowing up buildings in Berlin in 1930.



The faith that is known for taking over entire neighborhoods in other liberal democracies and imposing Sharia law, honor killings, genital mutilation... that faith?



Only if you ignore the actual facts.

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You're also wrong about the man thing. You're a camel.

Also, probably old too.

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I still got it though!

This is me being teh sezzy!

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A) genital mutilation is not a religious thing. It's cultural and includes a number of Christian majority countries.
B) honor killings are hardly the sole purview of Islam exist in many cultures historically including Christianity.
C) the religious right has been pushing their own version of Sharia law for 1500 years

So don't try to pretend this is about the evils of one religion.

You asked for why someone would see parallels. I gave you the answer. You just don't want to admit you're complicit in this perversion of American ideals.

That's like pointing out that Christmas Trees are technically cultural. It isn't Christian immigrants importing this practice into Western democracies.



They are not today practiced by Christians, and again, are not taking place among Christian immigrants to Western countries - and in point of fact were never as widespread among Christians; women who got honor killed in Islam got sent to convents in the west.



the religious right is an entirely modern concept, existing exclusively post-WWII at the earliest. The idea that anyone was "promoting Sharia" in times when the concept of science and the ability to practice it were yet to be developed (to say nothing ot eh total lack of tools to do it with) is an absurd distortion of history. People are quick to complain about "Creationism" but demanding that people in the past be held to the standards of today is essentially the same thing. Modernity could not spring of its own accord onto the scene; a species evolving from hunter-gatherer ancestors after billions of years of planetary development had to evolve the concepts we enjoy today. So no, you do not get to trot out the "Sharia" of 500 AD and pretend its the same as immigrants today coming into a society that has rejected that and complain about it.

Oh, and while we're at it, the Western "sharia" of even the last 500 years was still pretty preferable to what much of Islam practices today.



I'm not pretending. It IS about the evils of one religion. Dragging up the practices of Christians centuries ago to excuse Muslims doing it today is simply a double standard intended to give Muslims a free pass. Western Christian nations have been moving farther and farther away from this, to the degree that for the last 30 years its been victory after victory for secularism, to the point that the secularists are among those (such as civil rights advocates and feminists) who have largely run out of battles to fight and decided to invent problems to solve.

Islam is not, and they don't have the excuse of living in a world where science doesn't even exist



I'm not "complicit" in any such thing, because no such ideal ever existed to pervert. This is part of the problem - the left wants to invent "ideals" wholesale, assign them a historical status they never actually had, try to shame people for not slavishly agreeing to this nonsense.

The fact of the matter is that the religious group you're talking about is responsible for repeated attacks on America and the West over the last decades that no other group even begins to approach. You think it's unfair to look at them all suspiciously to find the one that's going to blow up? You want to treat them as individuals?

All right. Then stop treating blacks as a singular interest group. Stop it with white people, women, men, Hispanics, Asians, and literally everyone else. The left is standing around in dumbfounded shock that it just lost an election because white women (in part) didn't slavishly vote for the white woman. Turns out white women can think! Who knew?!? Maybe treating them as a whole block wasn't such a great idea?

Identity politics is the toy of the left; and you just don't like it when it gets turned back on you. You only want to demand "individuality" when it helps you. When it doesn't help you, all of aa sudden it's "perverting American ideals" just because people might want to check and make sure the minority you want to import so you can stand there in total shock when they don't vote 100% Democrat in the next election doesn't occasionally blow up a train station. This isn't about American idealsl; this is about the Left wanting to manipulate demographics for political advantage, and try to pretend real issues don't exist because it might offend the people that should "ALLAHU ACKBAR!!!" at the TV set every time someone stabs an old lady on the streets in Israel.

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"Most of Trump's voters are uneducated just like you faggots"

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I'm really getting kind of frustrated by this ahistorical idea that the left invented identity politics 30 years ago and that white voters are just now reacting to it. Do you seriously believe that white people in the pre-Civil Rights era didn't group people by race or think in "us vs. them" terms on issues involving race? Ever heard of this little thing called segregation? Kinda based on the concept of preserving white identity. The difference between then and now is just that back then, the racial hierarchy (and the gender hierarchy for that matter) was so firmly in place, that race and gender issues didn't get discussed in politics unless the issue was directly about race and gender (e.g., whether black people were civilized enough to be allowed to vote and whether women should be allowed to have their own bank accounts and credit cards). Economic issues weren't often discussed in race/gender terms because it was just understood that "working class" meant "white working class men" and "elites" meant "elite white people". Whenever that hierarchy was challenged, though, you got a backlash by white people (on race issues) and men (on gender issues). Over the last 50 years, we've made huge amounts of progress, and the hierarchy has broken down to the point that it actually gets recognized and talked about instead of just being an assumed background. And yes, the left won't shut up about it, and it's annoying and arguably staring to go past its stale date. But the backlash we're seeing is still very much just a repeat of the longstanding pattern of pushback by white people and men whenever their status in the hierarchy has been challenged.

Nonsense. Eventually, you will all learn to kneel before your ginger mistresses. You'll enjoy life so much more in your natural subservient state.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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