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Autocratic Dictator's "Security" Staff assaults US Citizen Protestors on US Soil.

http://www.npr.org/2017/05/17/528822184 ... washington

Last I checked... this *is* still America right?

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Holy shitsnacks!

Yes, and this isn't the first incident. The Turkish President ought to be told if he wants to visit in the future he's going to have to leave his thugs bodyguards at home.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Holy ****... we agree on this one?

****... Um...

Man, I can't believe how those dirty protesters provoked such a response from those dedicated servants o fdem... no. I can't. That's just too far.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Of course we do. Embassies are considered sovereign territory; it necessarily follows that using an embassy to launch any kind of physical attack outside of the embassy is an attack on the host nation. Technically, this was an act of war. I don't think objecting to an act of war on American soil is really controversial.

I see no reason to go completely apeshit over it, but the Turks need a good spanking.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Which... I doubt they'll get.

Cause we need them because of Syria or some ****... I dunno. Maybe we should ally with the Kurds and piss off everyone down there.

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Holy shitsnacks!

The fact that they're in NATO complicates things a lot. I read something indicating we're going to be providing arms to the Kurds, though.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Yes, yes they do. I think most hightailed it out of the country, though. **** those guys and we'd better raise some diplomatic hell about it.

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When he's underwater does he get wet? Or does the water get him instead?

Watching that video was one of the only times I can remember thinking to myself that the cops should have been using a lot more force. Tasers, night sticks and pepper spray, accompanied by multiple arrests, were definitely warranted.

Not... according to Turkey...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40003575

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Holy shitsnacks!

Too bad the protestors were disarmed.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

Yes, clearly it would be better if Turkey could claim its Presidential detail had been attacked by "armed terrorists".

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Who the hell cares what they claim? If they violate rights on our soil then **** em. Their dead will be the reminder of how to act when a guest somewhere.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

If they violate our rights on our soil, that's for the government to deal with - in the fashion it deems appropriate. I already pointed out this was an act of war. Had the Turks started shooting themselves, we have an infantry regiment and the DC National Guard to deal with that, assuming the police can't handle it.

As for who cares, I think you know exactly who cares - people who would love to turn such an incident into complaining about the imagined evils of the 2nd Amendment. You do get that there are major political interests in this country that ought not to be given ammunition for their stances, don't you?

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Well, obviously those people should be shot too. Traitors to the Union they are. They probably believe that taxation isn't theft too.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Some people are really good at talking about who should be shot on the internet.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

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In time, this too shall pass.

Their shouldn't be anything that empower someone's ***** about their feels to be able to violate the rights of others. Let alone in a system which supposedly has the highest law prohibiting that entity from doing so. I would love to live in a world where acting to violate the rights of others has a good chance of getting that person shot. Most people would learn to at least fake respect for others real fast and seriously get interested in how to actually act in at the least - amoral ways. I'm not a person who think that we have too much violence in the world at base, we do, but only because the violence is misdirected. Were it properly directed we would have a great deal less of it in total in the world.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

The irony here is that your world either isn't populated by actual humans, but elmo-bots, or else you would survive just long enough to realize your world was a horrible, horrible mistake.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I don't want Elmo-bots. Or I don't care actually. Each person can direct their action how the best believe they can gain their future happiness. Those who seek to trounce on others would soon be cowed, maimed, or dead. Then the natural risk aversiveness of humanity will cause them to seek peaceful solutions since non peaceful ones mean actual and likely immeadeate risk. Humans respond to incentives and the incentives in this world suck. In the US and most "first world" nations we behave with the mask of civility and export violence on others via our government in a desperate game in the later stages of democracy as De'Touqeville warned where it's simply small groups moving their pieces to try to steal the most from the other groups while being stolen from least. The cover of our indoctrination that democracy moralizes such things is also our public mask. Take away that effect and we can't wear masks for long for there isn't any group delusion of cover. Your word, your actions, define you. No SJW's squaking about being offended because it gives them no political vis a vis social power.

Yeah people would hate the part where all of that false civility gets burned off by the end of the system. Lots of people would not do well or survive. More people would be better off for longer though and the incidence of the suffering during that period is most likely to fall on those who caused the most suffering prior. Do we care that violent criminals are most likely to be violent to each other? I don't. Do I care that ER's wouldn't have to spend resources patching them up? I don't. Do I care that after the initial waves of violence calm down the major drivers of violence like the drug war will vanish? Hell yes. Do I care that the criminal advancement and gang recruiting centers aka prisons will be gone? Absolutely. Politicians as a class will have to starve or do actaul work others find valuable? Yeah that would be nice. Walking through a currency transition now would be a helluva lot better than going through the eventual currency collapse when I'm older than now-ish.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

Sounds good if you ignore the totality of human history.

I can make Communism sound amazing too if I get to ignore human nature.

that, and every real world example of that economic model ever

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In time, this too shall pass.

Or they'd just put you up against the wall first.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I hope you all take a good long luck at yourselves for the system you're supporting because it is a package deal. You get your imagined comfort and safey but you also get the warfare state and the abuse of rights at home.

The only ones who can ignore the totality of human history are the ones who support the state. Name an entity that has killed more people in it's name and no, religion doesn't even come close.

When you concentrate power it will be abused. The more you concentrate it the more it will be abused and the worse the degree of that abuse. You claim to want a good soceity but you support the structure that evil depends on to thrive.

And DE, they will likely try. That's fine. I accept the risk for a better world. If they do try I'll take a huge chunk of them with me and be absolutely at peace over the exchange. Fear doesn't control me.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

That's strange. I'm looking at most of the world and myself, and my comfort and safety seem pretty real - unless of course I get sent there to fight them. As for "warfare state", war will always be a thing. I'm fine with being more powerful than the other guy, and your ideas of how rights work are too stupid to be countenanced.



You don't accept any risk. You post bullshit on the internet. Your fantasy world doesn't actually exist. All you're doing is engaging in slacktivism. You don't know what risk is; you have never felt it.



People who have never had sex before shouldn't tell people it won't hurt to get **** in the ***.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."