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Perhaps then Vegas should do something about it's image?


Their image had nothing to do with the PotUS stating that "businesses [shouldn't] go there."

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I am amused how everyone here who is generally so gung ho about free speech and letting market forces decide everything is crying foul.


Amusement aside, I think you're misperceiving the outcry. It isn't that somebody lambasted Vegas. That happens in probably thousands of churches a month.

It is that the President of the United States has now lambasted the place twice, negatively impacting the livelihoods and lives of both businesses and citizens. At best, that's shitty "leadership."

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The mayor brushed off a suggestion that Las Vegas boosters have brought the problem on themselves by spending hundreds of millions of dollars promoting the naughty side of Las Vegas, primarily through the cheeky "What happens here, stays here" advertising campaign.

"There are different markets that we are trying to attract here," he said. "We are just trying to promote what we're famous for."

Folks on the business end of Las Vegas tourism say it is critical for potential visitors to distinguish between professional and party aspects of the city.



I read the article, Arafys. Thanks for providing another perspective.

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Aizle:

There is a difference between what the President is free to say and what he should say.

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Perhaps then Vegas should do something about it's image?

I am amused how everyone here who is generally so gung ho about free speech and letting market forces decide everything is crying foul.


You are arguing people speaking their minds is an indictment of free speech? That doesn't really make sense.

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Big words are sexy.


There are no words in the English language (or any other language for that matter) that can describe my sexiness. Or how big I am. :shock:

Chew on that.

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Well then, from now on, I will call you Big Sexy.
Everyone follow suit.

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Rafael wrote:
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Perhaps then Vegas should do something about it's image?

I am amused how everyone here who is generally so gung ho about free speech and letting market forces decide everything is crying foul.


You are arguing people speaking their minds is an indictment of free speech? That doesn't really make sense.


No.

He's arguing that many people are here pro-free speech, and that he thinks it is "amused" (likely meaning finds it contradictory) for those same pro-free speech advocates to be decrying something the PotUS said. In other words, he thinks we're speaking for censorship. So that would make sense, except as both Khross and I have now said, that isn't what we're doing.

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The mayor brushed off a suggestion that Las Vegas boosters have brought the problem on themselves by spending hundreds of millions of dollars promoting the naughty side of Las Vegas, primarily through the cheeky "What happens here, stays here" advertising campaign.

"There are different markets that we are trying to attract here," he said. "We are just trying to promote what we're famous for."

Folks on the business end of Las Vegas tourism say it is critical for potential visitors to distinguish between professional and party aspects of the city.



I read the article, Arafys. Thanks for providing another perspective.


Welcome. I'm very defensive about my town. I <3 Vegas. :)

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Big words are sexy.


There are no words in the English language [...] [for] how big I am. :shock:



Sure there are...


"Smaller than DFK!."

That's an excellent descriptor. :P

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ROFL!!!! DFK that was pretty good. :D

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Don't hate bro. Just cause Screeling upended you in a deuce off (nothing to be ashamed of, that's like getting losing to Usain Bolt in a foot race), doesn't mean you have to project your size insecurities on me.

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Oooooooo snap! /popcorn

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Rafael wrote:
Don't hate bro. Just cause Screeling upended you in a deuce off (nothing to be ashamed of, that's like getting losing to Usain Bolt in a foot race), doesn't mean you have to project your size insecurities on me.


Not hating. Didn't say you were "small." Just "smaller than DFK!." I'm not trying to outshine your light... I'm just the Sun. 8-)

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The Sun? I think you've been staring into the sun too long ... you need to borrow some sunglasses from your little smiley face there.

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ROFL!!! I like the direction this derail is headed! :lol:

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Jasmy wrote:
ROFL!!! I like the direction this derail is headed! :lol:


Oh my goodness me too! My sides hurt from laughing so hard!!! :lol:

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The Sun? I think you've been staring into the sun too long ... you need to borrow some sunglasses from your little smiley face there.


:lol: 8-)

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The Sun? I think you've been staring into the sun too long ... you need to borrow some sunglasses from your little smiley face there.



Word, the Sun.

Sunglasses are what the populace needs to glimpse the WTFBBQ that is DFK!.


I mean, let me put it to you this way, how often do you go through rubber bands?

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lol wth. Just cause the word prick is in the thread title doesnt give people license to discuss and brag about their jump rope penises. Good golly!

:o :mrgreen:

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lol wth. Just cause the word prick is in the thread title doesnt give people license to discuss and brag about their jump rope penises. Good golly!

:o :mrgreen:


Holy crap. Were we talking about weiners? I thought the size we were discussing was like, body mass!

You guys are sneaky!!!

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The Sun? I think you've been staring into the sun too long ... you need to borrow some sunglasses from your little smiley face there.



Word, the Sun.

Sunglasses are what the populace needs to glimpse the WTFBBQ that is DFK!.


I mean, let me put it to you this way, how often do you go through rubber bands?


Rubber bands? Son, this music plays everytime I piss:

[youtube]1Nd-MK4ESao[/youtube]

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There is a difference between what the President is free to say and what he should say.


I completely agree.

However, it is LAUGHABLE that anyone is up in arms about this comment. Let's look at it a little more closely.

Obama wrote:
You don't blow a bunch of cash on Vegas when you're trying to save for college.


Now, it is VERY obvious from the phrasing of the sentence that what he's talking about here is gambling/entertainment, not going there to have a business conference. One doesn't "blow a bunch of cash" on a business trip or meeting, they do it on the slots or roulette. And doing that when you're trying to save for college IS stupid and to be discouraged.


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"You don't blow a bunch of cash on Vegas when you're trying to save for college."
"You don't blow a bunch of cash on a vacation when you're trying to save for college."

The same statement. One can cause harm, the other not.

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I agree with Aizle... the amount of reaction to the comment is out of proportion to the effect of the comment.

As I said before, pointing out the absolute contradiction between the words of the President on responsible spending and their stated goal "spend our way out of the recession" is worth more discussion. Or perhaps, if you want to focus on the the previous speech from the President, take his comment about how banks shouldn't be using taxpayer dollars for the Superbowl and compare that with the $2.5 million ad the Census is getting ready to spend on Superbowl advertising.


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Aizle wrote:
However, it is LAUGHABLE that anyone is up in arms about this comment. Let's look at it a little more closely.



It's canned outrage but he said something similar before and got in trouble for it, even apologized, then said it again. It's pretty lol you must admit!

It's also true that if you say it, no big deal, but if the POTUS says it it has more weight.

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Aizle wrote:
[However, it is LAUGHABLE that anyone is up in arms about this comment. Let's look at it a little more closely.
Except, the President has already demonstrably harmed the convention/professional hospitality industry in Vegas with such comments in the past. And, if you think the comment is totally innocuous, look at the state of charter aviation and private aviation in the U.S. since the President's snit over GM Execs using private aircraft to travel to D.C. last year.

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