Monte wrote:
Vindicarre wrote:
It's sad that everything that doesn't support Obama is racist to the left.
I'm sorry, but that criticism is a total straw man.
It's not a straw man at all. It's Vindicarre's view on the subject. Is there a reason you insist on misusing this term?
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It's not even remotely true. Racism is racism. If people were screaming about actual policy, or talking about policy, there would be no such criticism. However, they are disrespecting him in a way they would not have disrespected a White president, especially a white republican president. They are shouting about conspiracy theories and crazed, lunatic ideas that he was born in Kenya (thus, making him the Other, and not American, which is to say White). They scream about how he's going to cover all the brown people sneaking across the border without an ounce of evidence to support their claims.
It's quite true. People are not screaming anything about "brown people", they're pointing out how his "plan" doesn't close loopholes, thus rendering it irrelevant that they aren't covered under it, and that in his speech it's unclear what plan he is talking about, and that the plans that have actually been written include no enforcement mechanism to keep illegals from getting coverage.
Wht any theory about him being born in Kenya has to do with this is beyond me. Maybe you should stick to the topic at hand.
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It just stinks of racism, all around.
No, it doesn't. Racism is just a tired tactic to avoid talking about the details the President and the left are glossing over.
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Now, there are plenty of non racist criticisms of the President. Some of those can be found here, and elsewhere. But they do not dominate the discourse on the right. If you flip to any right wing radio talk show or tv pundit, their commentary is dripping with irrational hatred.
No it isn't.
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There is no race card. That's a straw man, as well. When someone says "The most intense opposition to the president clearly has racial overtones" that's not playing some kind of race card, it's a statement of observable fact.
No, it's not. "Observable fact" does not mean extrapolated racial overtones that cannot be established by anything other than people's assumptions, such as your ideas about Joe Wilson. It's not a straw man, either; it's got nothing to do with distorting anyone's argument.