The Glade 4.0

I was not trying to say that you implied such a thing. I was asking a serious question, because if the agreement that we would not slam on other's religious holiday threads is no longer in force, I didn't get the memo.

So in answer to your "This sucks, but you're surprised?" question, yes I am surprised. Had it been a Hellfire thread I would not have been. But to see this happen in General? Yes, I am surprised.

The problem, in my mind, is that we have gotten familiar enough with each other to say what we think, but not truly friendly enough to NOT say what might be hurtful. The fact that we need a Hellfire forum at all indicates that we have a bunch of people who actually WANT to piss people off, and the goal is to post possible controversial threads THERE (or move them), not to tell people what they can and can't do in any given forum. Sadly, I don't know why anyone needed to make your thread controversial.

Thanks, Taamar. I thought it would be non-controversial in General; just a way for the Christians on this board to celebrate the resurrection together. That was my only intent.

I'm still trying to figure out why people get so hostile? I just suggested that young children are not discerning and suddenly I'm a villian. If I find brainwashing children into religious beliefs extremely offensive. If I had posted "happy abortion day" and bery had commented that he found the celebration offensive I would be neither upset nor offended if he had piped up.

But apparently its ok to offer any sort of comment about my beliefs or moral code, but if I make a comment about SOMEONE ELSE WHO ISNT ON THIS BOARD thats not ok and instead I'm a troll.

Nothing was reported to me in a strict sense, no. I moved the thread because it was rapidly degrading and I felt locking was the worse choice of the two. Once moved, I got direct posts (see: reports) asking to just lock instead. I agreed and did so.

I don't like issuing warnings anymore because last time we banned someone with multiple warnings, we got ***** at. Don't see the point.

There was/is a place for such commentary, TheRiov, such as your own thread in Hellfire. My celebratory Easter thread in General was not it, imo.

If there were an actual "Abortion Day", and it had some serious spiritual meaning for you, I would expect you to be able to post a thread in General without comment from me, however distasteful I would find it.

*edit* Added "in General"

When I was a mod I got ***** at whether I warned or didn't, whether I locked a thread or left it alone. Whatever I did pissed SOMEONE off, who thought I should be doing it their way. If I came into a thread late (because of a report) I got ***** at for not stopping it sooner. If I got involved early I got told I should have let it go since no one was complaining.

Being a mod sucks.

I dunno if it would be beneficial.....but perhaps if religion is a topic that some want to discuss, and seperate forum could be created with a rule-set that none disrespect others, lest they get banned from the forum?

And with such a forum, no religious topics be created outside said forum, lest they be moved/locked/deleted?

Would that be easier than dealing with such incidents as this? Just asking.....

We don't need to create a new forum every single time some half-wit who screams for tolerance, and searches to find offense to take in the most innoculous of statements, acts like the jack *** hypocrite fool he is and takes a crap on someone else's spirituality. What we need is for that **** moron to knock it the **** off and act like an adult.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

Why couldn't you create a separate thread in Hellfire to discuss your feelings on it instead of crapping in a thread that was meant to spread well wishes and good sentiment to others?

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The Dude abides.

Just a suggestion pertaining to religion, not every dispute on this board.

You're expecting me to believe you're actually surprised people are getting hostile for being told they are brainwashing children? Ignorance on that level precludes the ability to type on a keyboard and post on the internet, so I'm not buying it. If you want to moralize about this you do it in Hellfire, that's what it's there for. This was a simple thread for people to enjoy a holiday in the General section. That's not an invitation for you to come in and take a dump.

Dont do it again.

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“Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general”. - Mark Rippetoe

Since mods have always been volunteers, does that really matter?

Yes, is the short answer.

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“Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general”. - Mark Rippetoe

Can I report you for accusing me of ignorance in a non-hellfire forum?

Pfft go ahead the mods around here dont do anything anyway. What? =p

Besides I said I'm not buying the ignorance approach I'm accusing you of being a PITA!

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“Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general”. - Mark Rippetoe

Ok, but SERIOUSLY. Someone needs to explain to me how the **** crucifying Jews, resurrections and the salvation of mankind has anything to do with hiding eggs and bunnies.

Seriously.

To make a long story short: Nothing.

iirc it came about when the roman empire forced various pagan nations into the roman catholic church. These groups mixed their old traditions with the system that forced upon them.

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

Jim Gaffigan explains:

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“Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general”. - Mark Rippetoe

While its perfectly clear that you didn't say that it's acceptable to insult people in General based ont heir religion as Bery implied, the last line is sheer nonsense.

It isn't how "everything" gets treated, unless that "everything" is in Hellfire, or to a lesser degree Heckfire and Rants. When we've seen religious threads having to do with whatevr holidays you celebrate, no one has felt it necessary to come in and make cnotty comments. In fact, no one even felt it necessary to do it in "prayers for Rhode Island", since htat's fairly generic, not Christian-specific.

However, when we get a thread specifically about a major Christian holiday, people think that's a license to come in and start turning it into a discussion of how they don't like the way other people teach their children religious views or making jokes that amount to "Look how cool I am for not believing!"

In fact, if someone were to come in and do the same thing in one of your threads, the same people who are saying everyone should lighten up would be dogpiling on whoever did it (rightly) AND using it as an excuse to generalize that behavior to all other Christians, probably even if the person who did it wasn't one.

So yes, to a large degree it is about the fact that there are a few people here who think every thread that mentions Christianity means they need to get their shots in due to their personal issues with it. It even happens in bona fide discussion threads; any passing mention of Christianity much less a serious discussion of it is interspresed with what amounts to pointless drivel by people who need to drop some poison in the well at every opportunity.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Mainly because this isn't the discussion forum. Was it too much effort to go start a thread in a different forum?

As for "brainwashing", this is a load of horseshit. What you're really saying is "I don't believe in it, so I don't think people shoudl teach it to children because I want other people's children to have a greater chance of growing up to think like I do". Teaching children their parent's religion isn't "brainwashing" them any more than teaching them anything else is brainwashing; we don't protect children from any and all beliefs until they reach adulthood (or even adloesence) merely because someone else doesn't liek that belief.

In fact, part of religious freedom is the ability to teach your religion to your children since (surprise) religions tend to mandate that as part of their practice. I'm sort of amazed that you categorize exercise of religious freedom as "brainwashing".. no wait. I'm not amazed.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

This, pretty much. We celebrate on the days we do because they fall in line with the Jewish holidays that the NT mentions (Christ was crucified the Friday before Passover, and rose on the first day of the week), but other peoples celebrate about the same time as the coming of Spring with the renewal of life after the dead of Winter. Those celebrations became combined, but in reality I believe they should have remained separate celebrations.

I know that. But ok, take away the ressurection - someone still needs to explain why a bunny is hiding eggs.

Hehehe, your guess is as good as mine on that.

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Holy shitsnacks!