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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:15 pm 
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http://www.salon.com/entertainment/tv/m ... us_upskirt

One can only hope.

I wonder if he can get as many defenders as Polanski

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I find it hard to care about either Perez Hilton or Miley Cyrus, however the article is rather revealing as to how dumb our child pornography laws are.
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"For instance, if you were to take the face of an 8-year-old and put that picture on the nude body of even an identifiable, fully developed adult porn star, it is child-porn punishable identical to if you took a photo of the actual child."
The ****?

First off, how did that come up in court?

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She's legal in NV ;)

Just don't take pics of her.

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Corolinth wrote:
I find it hard to care about either Perez Hilton or Miley Cyrus, however the article is rather revealing as to how dumb our child pornography laws are.
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"For instance, if you were to take the face of an 8-year-old and put that picture on the nude body of even an identifiable, fully developed adult porn star, it is child-porn punishable identical to if you took a photo of the actual child."
The ****?

First off, how did that come up in court?


I actually did some research on the child pornography laws for a project while I was in college and pretty much ANYTHING that even remotely involves a childs image in something that could be perceived as sexual in nature even if it is 100% fictional (i.e. drawings, anime, etc) qualifies as child porn.

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Perez lives in LA, nothing is going to **** happen. This is the same city that let Lindsay Lohan get two DUI's, miss half her court appearances, plus get caught with cocaine, and they still let her roam free.


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Perez lives in LA, nothing is going to **** happen. This is the same city that let Lindsay Lohan get two DUI's, miss half her court appearances, plus get caught with cocaine, and they still let her roam free.


None of those are child pornography. That's a federal **** offense.

He's **** toast.

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While intercourse may be involved, I doubt he will be the dominant partner or that toast will be involved.

Mandatory 15 years . . . pretty extreme for a 17.5 year-old stupidly flashing the world and the paparazzi, but if it ends his 15 minutes of fame, I'll be happy.

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Mandatory 15 years . . . pretty extreme for a 17.5 year-old stupidly flashing the world and the paparazzi


I have to agree with that, although it pains me to do so. Hilton is an intensely stupid person who deserves scorn and ridicule, but that's over the top.

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Mandatory 15 years . . . pretty extreme for a 17.5 year-old stupidly flashing the world and the paparazzi


I have to agree with that, although it pains me to do so. Hilton is an intensely stupid person who deserves scorn and ridicule, but that's over the top.


It's hard to know where to draw that line....on an individual basis it usually seems so clear, but for the sake of a lot of teenagers and smaller children, I'm really glad the laws on this and the consequences (hopefully) are ironclad.

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I actually did some research on the child pornography laws for a project while I was in college and pretty much ANYTHING that even remotely involves a childs image in something that could be perceived as sexual in nature even if it is 100% fictional (i.e. drawings, anime, etc) qualifies as child porn.


There goes 99% of jap animation artists... :twisted:


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Yes, it does.

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I should also say if this picture was one of those sleazy paparazzi hiding in the tree snapping shots through her window, hell yeah put em in jail. It looks like it was just her going commando in broad daylight with a skirt on.

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According to, what was it...The Child Pornography Act of 2002 or something, posession of any of that is just as much of an offense as "real" child pornography. I believe the terms "virtual" and "digital" were used, but I don't feel like searching for the document.

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I should also say if this picture was one of those sleazy paparazzi hiding in the tree snapping shots through her window, hell yeah put em in jail. It looks like it was just her going commando in broad daylight with a skirt on.


I'd be careful there. That could fall along the lines of "she was asking for it" or something. Its nobody's business if a teen wants to walk around commando and it also doesn't mean its ok to take pictures of her privates even if she had an accident or something.

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I'm actually of two minds here LK... on one hand, wearing a shortish skirt with no undies and getting out of a car = someone will see it, especially as you're a celebrity and have fore knowledge of this. On the other I believe photographers should have some decency to censor themselves when it comes to these things...

So in this instance knowing full well she gets photographed a lot, and having seen her predecessors (think britney, lindsey, paris, etc) it's kinda hard not to go with the "she's asking for it" line of thinking.


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Still underage, and thus not legally responsible. Having it taken is one thing. This idiot purposfully sent it to however many twits (tweets?) He is going for distribution.

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Still underage, and thus not legally responsible.


This is the part that gets me more than anything. I just committed a crime, but oh I'm underage, thus not legally responsible for my actions. There comes a point (pre-adult) where you have to take responsibility for your actions. A nine year old is one thing, but a 17 year old -- c'mon.


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I'd be careful there. That could fall along the lines of "she was asking for it" or something. Its nobody's business if a teen wants to walk around commando and it also doesn't mean its ok to take pictures of her privates even if she had an accident or something.


If you have your picture taken 1,000 times a day, you need to understand that commando + skirt + high stepping out of a convertible means this sort of thing is not only possible but highly probable.

Looking at the censored picture : http://earsucker.com/2010/06/14/perez-h ... irt-photo/

This wasnt a case of some skeeze laying on the floor trying to get some crazy angle on her hoo nanny. This was a "HI BOYS!" that got caught on film.

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A 17 year old girl is not as mature as one might think.
Regardless of how you look at it, she is still under 18.
Whether it was a genuine accident, an accident-on-purpose, or an outright and purposeful on her part flashing of herself, she is still underage and Perez Hilton broke the law.

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They should give Hilton a choice. 15 years in prison, or let Miley's dad have 15 minutes in a locked room with him.

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You know ...

She's 17.5. She needed some publicity and a stunt to move out of the Hannah Montana demographic. Now she's joined the ranks of Britney and Christina and Paris and Lindsay. All Perez Hilton did, slimy shitheel that he is, was make public a picture someone else sent him.

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Maybe so Khross but 17.5 or 17.99 is still under 18.

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So she has no personal responsibility? Will she be more mature in November or whenever her birthday is?

I cant imagine she's too upset about this.

That said, I fully support a Perez Hilton / Billy Ray Cirus deathmatch on pay per view.

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Depends on what you mean by personal responsibility.
It would appear that it was an accidental flashing. You guys make it sound like she was showing off her stuff on purpose.
We can speculate but I don't think we know for sure.
Some women like going commando and accidents happen...guys too. I can't tell you how many times I've seen some guys nads hanging out of his shorts when he hiked his leg up for a step or something and didn't realize he was flashing the world.
If we all had cameras following us around everywhere I'm sure we'd catch some embarrassing stuff too.
But all that is just speculation. My whole point is that she is under 18 and that is where the law is.

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