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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:44 am 
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Where do you get the idea that I am affiliated with ANY Tea Bag organization anywhere?? I've said it here before and most people here already know that my political leanings are very liberal, with a bit of conservatism thrown in for balance! Then again, you can't be bothered to read anything anyone posts here, you just want to come in and spew your hatred of conservatives and call everyone here racist, over and over and over, because that's all you know!


You've actually hit the nail on the head. The real problem with Monty is that he simply does not read or consider what's written. He makes up his mind what he wants before he reads, reads about 3 lines, if that, assumes the rest, runs it through his liberal filter, and responds to whatever fits his views.

The reason we know this is that he does it in the game forums too. In Taly's game there have been several incidences, on this iteration and the previous one where he posted actions that clearly indicated he had not read the previous responses. Everyone makes mistakes like that in game threads from time to time but it was a regular thing with Monty. I'm told (haven't read that game carefully since I didn't play it) that he did the same thing in the Star Wars threads he participated in.

That's the heart of it: He simply does not know or care what any idea that's not part of his views might be. If you look at any of his responses longer than 1 line, when he's addressing practically any issue, they're simply regurgitations of his original position. He's argumentum ad nauseum personafied. He seems to think his positions are so unassailable, so completely reasonable and rational that they need no support or argument; anyone who does not simply accept them must be some sort of immoral nutcase for not adhereing to his orthodoxy.

It also doesn't matter how completely owned he gets on any issue; he will inevitably come back later claiming that he "debunked" the original position, and that "mountains of evidence" support him. He's doing that right now in the HIGCC thread(s) and he inevitably uses the assumption of victory on one issue as an illustration of how no one listens to him on any other.

As for hating him, in a couple cases he might be right. Most of us don't hate him though; we're simply exasperated at his unreasonableness and hypocrisy. Elmo can speak for himself in that regard. Like I said before, I respond to him because he makes hidden assumptions that appeal to people unfamiliar with the issues. I know we have lurkers, and a lot of the time, the sort of idiocy he spouts is presented on sites where contrary views are simply banned (no matter how loudly they protest that they don't).

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One can't stop others from being idiots, but it's not hatred that causes folks to call them out - it's a civic service to identify idiocy.

If I were a socialist to the extent Monte seems to be, I'd move to Venezuela and cozy up to Chavez. As it is, the US is the place closest to my version of Xanadu and if I thought socialism had a chance to prevail over capitalism here I'd be terribly disappointed.

So, it's just a matter of waiting for November 2012 and all will be resolved. I don't see such an experiment as the current fling with socialism working in the US again for quite a while.

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The reason we know this is that he does it in the game forums too. In Taly's game there have been several incidences, on this iteration and the previous one where he posted actions that clearly indicated he had not read the previous responses. Everyone makes mistakes like that in game threads from time to time but it was a regular thing with Monty. I'm told (haven't read that game carefully since I didn't play it) that he did the same thing in the Star Wars threads he participated in.


Isn't that kind of a lynch pin? Then again, he probably won't read your posts.

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I guess we all look alike to Monte.

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I guess we all look alike to Monte.

See? I told him he was prejudiced!

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if nothing else, hellfire posters are united in how much we like to talk about Monty. Also, I prefer to put a "y" at the end instead of an "e." I think we should all switch to a "y."

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if nothing else, hellfire posters are united in how much we like to talk about Monty. Also, I prefer to put a "y" at the end instead of an "e." I think we should all switch to a "y."


I vote for the 'e.'

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Heretic! Burn the witch!

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Heretic! Burn the witch!


You're being intolerant Wwen, you'll go to hell for that.

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I'm thinking we should see if he floats first.

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I'm thinking we should see if he floats first.

We could just weigh him against a duck.

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Wwen wrote:
Heretic! Burn the witch!


You're being intolerant Wwen, you'll go to hell for that.

Research indicates that that is not true.

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Jasmy smash!


What are you trying to accomplish? If you have nothing good to say about anyone here, why are you here? Is it really necessary to piss all over the place for fun?


Let me get this straight. At no time in the last few days have I used any language even approaching a blanket insult to everyone on the board. Nitefox, however, has used some pretty inflammatory language. Libtard, blatant curse words, etc, to directly and clearly attack me.

So, really, who is on the low road here? Jasmy came out swinging without provocation. Then Jasmy freaked out about pointing to a hideous thread that happened in the not so distant past. Jasmy overreacted. Nitefox freaked out that the vocal "libtard" dared to show his face again and be liberal.

I have lots of good things to say about folks here. Is it necessary for Nitefox and others to immediately get their backs up and be so directly and clearly hostile?


Who do you have control over? Are you saying that you're not responsible for your own writings? If you have nice things to say about folks, stop generalizing your insults at the board and say nice things.


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