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Geeze, guys. It's about who they are, not how big their tits are or how well-constructed their makeup jobs happen to be. WTF is wrong with you people?
Really? You're lamenting (and insulting) people for commenting on superficial characteristics in a thread specifically titled to deal with "h@wtness"?
Yup. If you can't figure it out, nothing I can say will help you.


Or you can shove off with your condescension. Hotness has nothing to do with anything but superficial characteristics.

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Or you can shove off with your condescension. Hotness has nothing to do with anything but superficial characteristics.
And this is why there's no talking to you. So sorry.

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Or you can shove off with your condescension. Hotness has nothing to do with anything but superficial characteristics.
And this is why there's no talking to you. So sorry.


Not sure what you mean by "there's no talking to you."

I (and others) posted in a thread about how hot two particular women are. You insulted me (and others). I asked a question. You insulted me again, directly this time.

I should just let that slide?


Perhaps we should all just let you insult whoever you please and never call you on it? I mean I haven't even been rude, unless you consider "shove off" itself to be rude. I personally thought it was a pretty polite response to your double insults.

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Hotness has nothing to do with anything but superficial characteristics.


Both of those women are very talented and have shown they have a brain and know how to use it. That makes them "very hot" to some of us.

You're still single aren't you?

You are so very wrong. Without a mind all the superficial characteristics maxxed to your dream-able limits wouldn't make a woman hot, just very good looking. Of course if you're going to go only by photographic evidence as to a woman's hotness, you deserve what you get.

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Micheal wrote:
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Hotness has nothing to do with anything but superficial characteristics.


You're still single aren't you?


Nope, but again I'll be polite and ignore the implied insult and condescension.

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You are so very wrong.


Wrong.

Look it up.

First, let's use urban dictionary as a source to get the modern "hip" connotation:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hot
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HOT 6400 up, 907 down

buy hot mugs, tshirts and magnets
I. One who is: a. gorgeous b. pretty c. beautiful d. cute e. attractive II. One who you would: a. lick b. suck c. nibble d. flirt with e. have sexual relations with III. One who makes you: a. flip b. crazy c. nutty d. pass out e. drool f. fantasize g. (if girl) wet h. (if guy) hard i. masturbate
The intern in my history class is such a(HOT chick)hottie I get (if chick)wet / (if guy)hard just looking at her.
by Rosy Apr 19, 2003 share this
HOT images

this chick is hot

2. HOT 2466 up, 735 down

1. Someone who is sexually attractive.

2. Opposite of cold
Larisa is HOT!!!


1.someone thats EXTREMEMLY good looking but not like cute, more like sexy. when they walk by u turn ure head and wish u had a pause button or something.
2.something that is in some way attractive
1.omg that guy on the skate board wa so hot!
2.as paris hilton says "thats hot"


Find me something in the above that deals with character or personality.

Next, let's look at Wikipedia. A search for Hot brings us to a disambiguation page, from which the relevant links are "physical attractiveness" and "sexual arousal." I'd quote those two as well, but I think we know that neither deals with personality, particularly with the physical adjective tied to "attractiveness."

Next, and finally, let's examine the dictionary for English itself:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hot
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hot (ht)
adj. hot·ter, hot·test
1.
a. Having or giving off heat; capable of burning.
b. Being at a high temperature.
2. Being at or exhibiting a temperature that is higher than normal or desirable: a hot forehead.
3. Causing a burning sensation, as in the mouth; spicy: hot peppers; a hot curry.
4.
a. Charged or energized with electricity: a hot wire.
b. Radioactive, especially to a dangerous degree.
5.
a. Marked by intensity of emotion; ardent or fiery: a hot temper.
b. Having or displaying great enthusiasm; eager: hot for travel.
6.
a. Informal Arousing intense interest, excitement, or controversy: a hot new book; a hot topic.
b. Informal Marked by excited activity or energy: a hot week on the stock market.
c. Violent; raging: a hot battle.
7. Slang Sexually excited or exciting.
8. Slang
a. Recently stolen: a hot car.
b. Wanted by the police: a hot suspect.
9. Close to a successful solution or conclusion: hot on the trail.
10. Informal
a. Most recent; new or fresh: a hot news item; the hot fashions for fall.
b. Currently very popular or successful: one of the hottest young talents around.
c. Requiring immediate action or attention: a hot opportunity.
11. Slang Very good or impressive. Often used in the negative: I'm not so hot at math.
12. Slang Funny or absurd: told a hot one about the neighbors' dog.
13. Slang
a. Performing with great skill and daring: a hot drummer.
b. Having or characterized by repeated successes: a player who is on a hot streak.
c. Fast and responsive: a hot sports car.
d. Unusually lucky: hot at craps.
14. Music Of, relating to, or being an emotionally charged style of performance marked by strong rhythms and improvisation: hot jazz.
15. Bold and bright.
n. hots (hts)
Slang Strong sexual attraction or desire. Used with the.

adv.
1. In a hot manner; hotly.
2. While hot: foods that are best eaten hot.
tr.v. hot·ted, hot·ting, hots
Informal To cause to increase in intensity or excitement. Often used with up: "His book is an exercise in the fashionable art of instant history, in which every episode is hotted up with an anecdote" (Harper's).
Idioms:
hot and bothered Informal
In a state of agitated excitement; flustered: all hot and bothered before the opening performance.
hot and heavy
1. Informal Passionate or intense: Interest in the new stock was hot and heavy.
2. Characterized by or engaging in amorous or sexual activity.
hot to trot Slang
1. Sexually avid; lascivious.
2. Ready and willing; eager.

hot under the collar Informal
Angry.
make it hot for Slang
To make things uncomfortable or dangerous for: Don't make it hot for yourself by needlessly finding fault.


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Only the underlined possibilities are even relevant, and they don't indicate anything beyond superficiality either.

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Without a mind all the superficial characteristics maxxed to your dream-able limits wouldn't make a woman hot, just very good looking.


Not if you're using Hot (hawt) in anything remotely resembling the modern slang usage. It has only to do with looks and sexual attractiveness.

What is particularly amusing to me here is that not only have you and Shelgeyr mis-used the term, you've decided to insult people for beliefs you're ascribing to them (specifically me right now, but Shelgeyr made a blanket statement attacking at least Raltar and Nev as well) that may or may not exist: namely, that they'd choose someone on looks alone.

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You're going to argue everything using the dictionary tonight? Have fun with that.


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Of course DFK! It seems you can never be wrong and you can never accept anyone else's opinion as having any credibility if it differs from yours or if it comes from a different reference point than one you can look up quickly on the internet.

Words change meaning over time. I've considered a woman's brain to be as much or more a part of her hotness as her physical appearance since the early 70's. I am not alone, but the majority of us who feel that way wouldn't bother correcting an entry on an internet meme.

You are still being offensive.

But then you need to win don't you?

I disagree with you, on this and many other things. That isn't going to change on my end. Have a nice day.

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Taamar wrote:
You're going to argue everything using the dictionary tonight? Have fun with that.


That would depend upon whether people continue to improperly use words. I use the dictionary every time somebody fails at English, in order to attempt to improve their future usage of English.

Interestingly, you're breaking forum rules, if we had any enforcement of them. As did Shelgeyr. Somehow, magically, I'm the one held out by many in the forum community as "misbehaving," though.

Fascinating.

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This isn't about condescension as much as it is about practicality. With your definition of "hotness" (and I'll sidetrack for just a moment to point out that I specifically labeled this thread with the phrase "geek girl h@wtness" to deliver the implication that I'm referring to something other than simple physical appearance), there's no point in conversing on the topic. It would be akin to debating shades of blue with someone who is color-blind. Your views and mine are in conflict, here, and no blandishments will change that simple fact.

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DFK! wrote:
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You're going to argue everything using the dictionary tonight? Have fun with that.


That would depend upon whether people continue to improperly use words. I use the dictionary every time somebody fails at English, in order to attempt to improve their future usage of English.


At some point I sincerely hope that you discover that there is MUCH more to words than appears in the dictionary. The map is not the territory.

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Interestingly, you're breaking forum rules, if we had any enforcement of them. As did Shelgeyr. Somehow, magically, I'm the one held out by many in the forum community as "misbehaving," though.

Which rules would those be? Seriously?


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Of course DFK! It seems you can never be wrong and you can never accept anyone else's opinion as having any credibility if it differs from yours or if it comes from a different reference point than one you can look up quickly on the internet.


I can be wrong. In fact, if I wanted to flag epeen, I'd "bet" with you over which of us has admitted incorrectness more often.

Furthermore, looking things up and verifying beliefs somehow being a negative is truly laughable Micheal. Please, think about it...

Are you honestly chastising someone for providing references?

Micheal wrote:
Words change meaning over time.


And yet, when I cite two openly editable, liquid documents of word usage, they do not support you.

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I've considered a woman's brain to be as much or more a part of her hotness as her physical appearance since the early 70's. I am not alone, but the majority of us who feel that way wouldn't bother correcting an entry on an internet meme.


Again, what makes you think I don't feel that way? Futhermore, what does your age have to do with it? And finally, why does responding to an insult incur your derision?

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You are still being offensive.


In what way? By correcting your word usage? Point at what is offensive. I find Shelgeyr's double-insult offensive. Where is your condescension, patriarchy, and lambasting of him?

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But then you need to win don't you?

I disagree with you, on this and many other things. That isn't going to change on my end. Have a nice day.


Why should it change?

People disagree. What should change is that you actually treat others with respect, acknowledge that some of us don't enjoy being insulted and respond poorly, and that just because you project a belief on to someone doesn't make it so.

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What should change is that you actually treat others with respect, acknowledge that some of us don't enjoy being insulted and respond poorly, and that just because you project a belief on to someone doesn't make it so.


Um. Wow.


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Shelgeyr wrote:
This isn't about condescension as much as it is about practicality. With your definition of "hotness" (and I'll sidetrack for just a moment to point out that I specifically labeled this thread with the phrase "geek girl h@wtness" to deliver the implication that I'm referring to something other than simple physical appearance), there's no point in conversing on the topic.


I appreciate you deigning to discuss word usage.

The fact that you believe your title, to your mind, conveys something beyond superficiality surprises me. Particularly given the "can you handle" beginning. That conveys something that is still superficial.

If you wanted it to be more than that, wouldn't you write something like "don't you just love..." or "I was excited to meet..." or "These women are awesome..." or, or, or.

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It would be akin to debating shades of blue with someone who is color-blind. Your views and mine are in conflict, here, and no blandishments will change that simple fact.


I'm not sure I follow you, as I think there's more discussion to be had from whether somebody finds someone attractive physically than whether they find them attractive overall, at least when the parties involved don't actually know the subject.

For example, I don't really know Charlize Theron, but I know I think she's mightily "hawt." We could have a discussion as to her physical attractiveness, and even as to her publicly stated "mind" or "personality," but unless we actually know her, no discussion about her can really be had. Since none of us (that I'm aware of) know either of the celebrities you posted, I don't think that discussion would go anywhere.

Regardless, you issued two insults. Being surprised that somebody would take affront to your insults is flabbergasting.

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You're going to argue everything using the dictionary tonight? Have fun with that.


That would depend upon whether people continue to improperly use words. I use the dictionary every time somebody fails at English, in order to attempt to improve their future usage of English.


At some point I sincerely hope that you discover that there is MUCH more to words than appears in the dictionary. The map is not the territory.


Sure there is. I agree totally.

That doesn't change the fact that they have meanings, and without tone and body language we must rely on denotation and connotation. Both of those (see posts above) in this case dealt with superficial (physical) characteristics.

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Interestingly, you're breaking forum rules, if we had any enforcement of them. As did Shelgeyr. Somehow, magically, I'm the one held out by many in the forum community as "misbehaving," though.

Which rules would those be? Seriously?


Bringing baggage from one thread to another would be one (that's you) and flaming would be the other (that's him). Seriously.

I don't particularly care, as this board is effectively anarchic at this point, I just thought it amusing that I'm the one piled on, given what the "rules" actually state. No big deal there, just commenting.

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Not sure what you mean by "there's no talking to you."
I mean what I said in my previous post. We fundamentally disagree on the definition/usage of the word "hotness". I feel your definition is too narrow, but as you're not likely to expand it and any attempts on my part to force you to do so would only result in further entrenching your views, there's no point. Thus, there's no talking to you.
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I (and others) posted in a thread about how hot two particular women are. You insulted me (and others). I asked a question. You insulted me again, directly this time.
Ahh, there's where you're mistaken. I didn't insult you, I simply pointed out that us having a debate on the hotness of the women in question is pointless. Your comments so far have done nothing to prove me wrong so I'm inclined to suggest that as my statement was factual, it cannot reasonably be construed as insulting.

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Perhaps we should all just let you insult whoever you please and never call you on it? I mean I haven't even been rude, unless you consider "shove off" itself to be rude. I personally thought it was a pretty polite response to your double insults.
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What is particularly amusing to me here is that not only have you and Shelgeyr mis-used the term, you've decided to insult people for beliefs you're ascribing to them (specifically me right now, but Shelgeyr made a blanket statement attacking at least Raltar and Nev as well) that may or may not exist: namely, that they'd choose someone on looks alone.

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Interestingly, you're breaking forum rules, if we had any enforcement of them. As did Shelgeyr. Somehow, magically, I'm the one held out by many in the forum community as "misbehaving," though.
You have, whether deliberately or unkowingly, put yourself in the position of defending the comment "she is where boners go to die" - because it wasn't until that was said that I began to take offense. My personal opinion is that if "h@wtness" is, as you put it, "nothing to do with anything but superficial characteristics", you're missing out on something and I'm sorry that you can't see it and as I stated in my first response to you directly, "nothing I can say will help you". You will, in my estimation, continue to miss out on what I and others see as being perfectly evident until your viewpoint changes. I, however, am not going to try to force your viewpoint to change. I merely ask that you (and others) respect the fact that I'm seeing something you're not seeing, and refrain from insulting me or the women in question.

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What should change is that you actually treat others with respect, acknowledge that some of us don't enjoy being insulted and respond poorly, and that just because you project a belief on to someone doesn't make it so.


Um. Wow.


"Um wow" yourself?

I treat all posters here with the respect I'm treated, usually (as much as I can) on a post-to-post basis. In other words, I try not to drag things around. I don't always do a good job, because I'm human and hence imperfect.

As an example of a success, DE and I have had some VERY strong disagreements in the past, yet I'm happy to invite him to my home.

As an example of a failure, I pretty well assume Micheal will make passive-aggressive insults at me and condescend patronizingly, just as it appears he simply assumes foul behavior on my part (per his own claim).


In regards to insults, I respond sharply to them. Not sure what warrants a "um wow" there. Indeed, I'd venture that almost any post of mine you'd have an issue with was either in response to a disrespectful post by another member, or due to a failure of mine to keep posts isolated. I do not generally start ****, though I know you believe I do.


And finally, I don't know what beliefs you believe I project on to others to warrant an "um wow" moment, but I'd be interested to know them. I actually think that my own "knowledge of self" is relatively strong, and would be interested to know where I was doing that, because it is certainly unpleasant and I would want to desist.

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Of course DFK! It seems you can never be wrong and you can never accept anyone else's opinion as having any credibility if it differs from yours or if it comes from a different reference point than one you can look up quickly on the internet.

Words change meaning over time. I've considered a woman's brain to be as much or more a part of her hotness as her physical appearance since the early 70's. I am not alone, but the majority of us who feel that way wouldn't bother correcting an entry on an internet meme.

You are still being offensive.

But then you need to win don't you?

I disagree with you, on this and many other things. That isn't going to change on my end. Have a nice day.

^this

The moment someone disagrees with you, DFK!, you take it as an insult. You've been treated with more respect in this thread than you've treated others and you still find reason to complain.

You'll see that statement as an insult, but actually, it's an observation. There's a difference... and as we all know -

Words have Meanings™

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Side-note, as I just now got to read a few of the more recent posts which appeared while I was typing : I distinguish between "looking hawt" and "being hawt". It's admittedly a fine distinction, but it's an important one. One may "look hawt" to people who know nothing about them and might also be possessed of such a distasteful personality that actually "being hawt" is impossible. On the other hand, one who does not necessarily "look hawt" might still "be hawt", but it does require that one know a bit more about them to recognize this. As for nobody on this forum knowing either of the celebrities pictured, I'll grant you that it's quite possible nobody knows Marian Call (despite my attempts to bring her to the attention of this community) but I think you're very much mistaken in believing that nobody is familiar with Felicia Day - star of "The Guild" and "Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog".

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Geeze, guys. It's about who they are, not how big their tits are or how well-constructed their makeup jobs happen to be. WTF is wrong with you people?


Given the fact that I have no **** clue who they are, I go based on looks.

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Not sure what you mean by "there's no talking to you."
I mean what I said in my previous post. We fundamentally disagree on the definition/usage of the word "hotness". I feel your definition is too narrow, but as you're not likely to expand it and any attempts on my part to force you to do so would only result in further entrenching your views, there's no point. Thus, there's no talking to you.

I see, so your full quote of "And this is why there's no talking to you. So sorry." was merely attempting to say "I don't think we'll agree on the usage of the word hot?"

Why not say that, instead of quoting me telling you to "shove off with your condescension" and then stating that. Since words are more than their definitions, the connotation of that would indicate that "there's no talking to you" would be a broader statement in regards to my personality. Which is an insult.

See now where I'm coming from on that score?

If you merely meant, "I don't think we'll agree on the usage of the word hot," then ok. Sounds fine to me. I won't like your definition and you won't like mine, but no gripe besides that, except when you judge people for having a different definition. Which you did.

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I (and others) posted in a thread about how hot two particular women are. You insulted me (and others). I asked a question. You insulted me again, directly this time.


Ahh, there's where you're mistaken. I didn't insult you, I simply pointed out that us having a debate on the hotness of the women in question is pointless. Your comments so far have done nothing to prove me wrong so I'm inclined to suggest that as my statement was factual, it cannot reasonably be construed as insulting.


Except that you did. You asked "WTF is wrong with people." That's an insult, see. You've stated that we must have something "wrong" with us.

I then asked for clarification on that. You went on to make the post I talked about above, so see that area on why I perceived it to be denigrating.

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DFK! wrote:
Perhaps we should all just let you insult whoever you please and never call you on it? I mean I haven't even been rude, unless you consider "shove off" itself to be rude. I personally thought it was a pretty polite response to your double insults.


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What is particularly amusing to me here is that not only have you and Shelgeyr mis-used the term, you've decided to insult people for beliefs you're ascribing to them (specifically me right now, but Shelgeyr made a blanket statement attacking at least Raltar and Nev as well) that may or may not exist: namely, that they'd choose someone on looks alone.


DFK! wrote:
Interestingly, you're breaking forum rules, if we had any enforcement of them. As did Shelgeyr. Somehow, magically, I'm the one held out by many in the forum community as "misbehaving," though.


You have, whether deliberately or unkowingly, put yourself in the position of defending the comment "she is where boners go to die" - because it wasn't until that was said that I began to take offense. My personal opinion is that if "h@wtness" is, as you put it, "nothing to do with anything but superficial characteristics", you're missing out on something and I'm sorry that you can't see it and as I stated in my first response to you directly, "nothing I can say will help you".


Interesting again. See, "nothing I can say will help you" again indicates "wrongness." Given the original context it is denigrating. "Missing out on something" is, even if correct, something might wish to say, rather than what you chose.

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You will, in my estimation, continue to miss out on what I and others see as being perfectly evident until your viewpoint changes.


This isn't "practicality," as you put it. This is condescension. You're claiming that 1) you know better than others and that 2) the others should recognize you for knowing such awesome things.

That isn't to say you're aren't free to have such an opinion. That also isn't to say you can't, or even shouldn't express it to people. I'm merely saying, at this point, that you need to be less derisive about it, as all your statements trying to "educate" me I found insulting, disrespectful, and ultimately incorrect.


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I, however, am not going to try to force your viewpoint to change.


Good, I'm not trying to force yours either. What I'm trying to do is have you not make judgmental statements about the responses/posts of others to your thread on a public forum.

If you want a permissions-only response venue, you need a blog, not the Glade.

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Of course DFK! It seems you can never be wrong and you can never accept anyone else's opinion as having any credibility if it differs from yours or if it comes from a different reference point than one you can look up quickly on the internet.

Words change meaning over time. I've considered a woman's brain to be as much or more a part of her hotness as her physical appearance since the early 70's. I am not alone, but the majority of us who feel that way wouldn't bother correcting an entry on an internet meme.

You are still being offensive.

But then you need to win don't you?

I disagree with you, on this and many other things. That isn't going to change on my end. Have a nice day.

^this

The moment someone disagrees with you, DFK!, you take it as an insult. You've been treated with more respect in this thread than you've treated others and you still find reason to complain.

You'll see that statement as an insult, but actually, it's an observation. There's a difference... and as we all know -

Words have Meanings™


/agrees 100% with the camel!!

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Taskiss wrote:
Micheal wrote:
Of course DFK! It seems you can never be wrong and you can never accept anyone else's opinion as having any credibility if it differs from yours or if it comes from a different reference point than one you can look up quickly on the internet.

Words change meaning over time. I've considered a woman's brain to be as much or more a part of her hotness as her physical appearance since the early 70's. I am not alone, but the majority of us who feel that way wouldn't bother correcting an entry on an internet meme.

You are still being offensive.

But then you need to win don't you?

I disagree with you, on this and many other things. That isn't going to change on my end. Have a nice day.

^this

The moment someone disagrees with you, DFK!, you take it as an insult. You've been treated with more respect in this thread than you've treated others and you still find reason to complain.


How do you figure?

It was originally intoned that I had "something wrong with me."

Then there was "no talking to you," indicating a character flaw.

Since then there has been continuing paternalization from Micheal, including further character denigration, along with askance "joking" maligning from Taamar.

Now you've entered the thread to further denigrate my character. At what point have I been "disrespectful" in this thread? Seriously... show me. Quote it.

Taskiss wrote:
You'll see that statement as an insult, but actually, it's an observation. There's a difference... and as we all know -

Words have Meanings™


There is a difference, certainly. It isn't an observation, because for it to be so it would require observable fact. For example, you'd have to demonstrate that respect given by me was somehow less than I was given. That's intangible and subjective, so good luck providing those observations.

Furthermore, the "still find cause to complain" is a derisive statement of the target's character. It indicates that the subject is a complainer or whiner. That's an "insult," not an "observation," unless it is demonstrably true.

As you said, words have meanings.

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DFK! - I could take so much of what you say as insulting, but I don't think you mean it that way so much as you need attention.

In my opinion, you should to go see a counselor, talk to them about what is bothering you, and see if you can resolve some of your issues before they spill over to make the rest of your life as miserable as you come off here.

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DFK! - I could take so much of what you say as insulting, but I don't think you mean it that way so much as you need attention.


And what makes you believe that, given that you've never met me?

Micheal wrote:
In my opinion, you should to go see a counselor, talk to them about what is bothering you, and see if you can resolve some of your issues before they spill over to make the rest of your life as miserable as you come off here.


Do you understand how incredibly derisive this is? Honest question.

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How do I figure?

DFK! wrote:
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Geeze, guys. It's about who they are, not how big their tits are or how well-constructed their makeup jobs happen to be. WTF is wrong with you people?


Really? You're lamenting (and insulting) people for commenting on superficial characteristics in a thread specifically titled to deal with "h@wtness"?


No insult from Shelgeyr here. None. Nada. Zilch. Someone may take exception to the language, but since he used the acronym instead of the actual words, even that is an incredible stretch.

Now, for someone who feels "shove off" isn't offensive, your ability to immediately jump to the conclusion that an insult has been offered is how I "figure" that "you've been treated with more respect in this thread than you've treated others and you still find reason to complain"..

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