DFK! wrote:
Not sure what you mean by "there's no talking to you."
I mean what I said in my previous post. We fundamentally disagree on the definition/usage of the word "hotness". I feel your definition is too narrow, but as you're not likely to expand it and any attempts on my part to force you to do so would only result in further entrenching your views, there's no point. Thus, there's no talking to you.
I see, so your full quote of "And this is why there's no talking to you. So sorry." was merely attempting to say "I don't think we'll agree on the usage of the word hot?"
Why not say that, instead of quoting me telling you to "shove off with your condescension" and then stating that. Since words are more than their definitions, the connotation of that would indicate that "there's no talking to you" would be a broader statement in regards to my personality. Which is an insult.
See now where I'm coming from on that score?
If you merely meant, "I don't think we'll agree on the usage of the word hot," then ok. Sounds fine to me. I won't like your definition and you won't like mine, but no gripe besides that, except when you judge people for having a different definition. Which you did.
Shelgeyr wrote:
DFK! wrote:
I (and others) posted in a thread about how hot two particular women are. You insulted me (and others). I asked a question. You insulted me again, directly this time.
Ahh, there's where you're mistaken. I didn't insult you, I simply pointed out that us having a debate on the hotness of the women in question is pointless. Your comments so far have done nothing to prove me wrong so I'm inclined to suggest that as my statement was factual, it cannot reasonably be construed as insulting.
Except that you did. You asked "WTF is wrong with people." That's an insult, see. You've stated that we must have something "wrong" with us.
I then asked for clarification on that. You went on to make the post I talked about above, so see that area on why I perceived it to be denigrating.
Shelgeyr wrote:
DFK! wrote:
Perhaps we should all just let you insult whoever you please and never call you on it? I mean I haven't even been rude, unless you consider "shove off" itself to be rude. I personally thought it was a pretty polite response to your double insults.
DFK! wrote:
What is particularly amusing to me here is that not only have you and Shelgeyr mis-used the term, you've decided to insult people for beliefs you're ascribing to them (specifically me right now, but Shelgeyr made a blanket statement attacking at least Raltar and Nev as well) that may or may not exist: namely, that they'd choose someone on looks alone.
DFK! wrote:
Interestingly, you're breaking forum rules, if we had any enforcement of them. As did Shelgeyr. Somehow, magically, I'm the one held out by many in the forum community as "misbehaving," though.
You have, whether deliberately or unkowingly, put yourself in the position of defending the comment "she is where boners go to die" - because it wasn't until that was said that I began to take offense. My personal opinion is that if "h@wtness" is, as you put it, "nothing to do with anything
but superficial characteristics", you're missing out on something and I'm sorry that you can't see it and as I stated in my first response to you directly, "nothing I can say will help you".
Interesting again. See, "nothing I can say will help you" again indicates "wrongness." Given the original context it is denigrating. "Missing out on something" is, even if correct, something might wish to say, rather than what you chose.
Shelgeyr wrote:
You will, in my estimation, continue to miss out on what I and others see as being perfectly evident until your viewpoint changes.
This isn't "practicality," as you put it. This is condescension. You're claiming that 1) you know better than others and that 2) the others should recognize you for knowing such awesome things.
That isn't to say you're aren't free to have such an opinion. That also isn't to say you can't, or even shouldn't express it to people. I'm merely saying, at this point, that you need to be less derisive about it, as all your statements trying to "educate" me I found insulting, disrespectful, and ultimately incorrect.
Shelgeyr wrote:
I, however, am not going to try to force your viewpoint to change.
Good, I'm not trying to force yours either. What I'm trying to do is have you not make judgmental statements about the responses/posts of others to your thread on a public forum.
If you want a permissions-only response venue, you need a blog, not the Glade.